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The Collective Imagination 19/20 March 2013

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At this pivotal time in Humanities evolution we are beginning to remember our organic technology. A technology when used correctly, can create an experience that the majority of people the world over want to live. It is time to use this technology consciously for our own benefit and healing and no longer unconsciously for own demise.
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Ginger’s Notes on the Show (Mahalo, again, Ginger!!)

The Collective Imagination show March 19th (US)/ 20th (Oz) – Still-point Creators Silliness
This was the most casual free-form and silly, but still helpful fun show ever!


  • Earth’s electromagnetic fields are shifting and being seen scientifically, as well as north/south hemispheres sink water spin drainage reversals now!
  •  The final (human) choices are being tallied and finalized now . . . just before our major shift.
  • Signs of Sasquatch people are coming out now (24mins into show) . . . as it’s safe.
  • Regarding “representations of money” . . . WAIT till after the shift is complete in order to see if we will even need one or not – LOL.
  • And what exactly we need to focus on now, via Heather – at about 66 minutes into show.
  • Since all the OPPT docs are retired, please remember . . . the commercial registry was reconciled into the Universe!
  • And that OPPT was an Eternal-Heart (activation) exercise (reaching the 3% critical mass, being all that was needed).

What IF . . . our physical bodies are all the ONLY “technology” we need to manifest anything out of “nothing”??? . . . even to move between time lines/time travel???  (a hint from Greg Braden’s info, “GOD-ETERNAL IN THE BODY”) . . . so be ready and open to accept our being completely free of all limitations beyond our current imagination “bio-technology” . . . to now use as we choose.

Katrina, of People’s Trust Orange County –

. . . is holding a gathering at Del Mar Beach, sunset March 20th, to offer rose petals of the heart, while reading out loud the last updated document we will ever need to focus on right now –
I highly recommend listening to the recording of this show to join a bunch of others feeling as bubbly-high as I am today! – With Absolute Most Outrageous Love, Ginger of Kona Occupy Disclosure OPPT-IN

MY VOTE FOR – MOST INFECTIOUS GIGGLER ON ALL OPPT SHOWS is BRIAN! . . . thank you brother of another mother!



Published on Mar 1, 2013

My reaction to the latest filing of the OPPT the one people’s public trust and my interpretation on a spiritual level.

Unedited warts’n all. I just had the feeling I had to do this video and I just let it happen. I get a bit emotional and all over the place here and there, but I didn’t want to edit it out. I’d rather have it genuine than pretend to be something I am not. I don’t usually get this wound up,but when you think about the real implications of the OPPT, something like this doesn’t come round every day. Not exactly ordinary! Forgive the long-winded-ness.

–Peter Van Runt


Peter talked from the heart in this video.  Those of you who are still missing the concept of OPPT, this is the video for you to view.  Great job Peter!


Uploaded on Mar 27, 2011

In his latest film, Zeitgeist: Moving Forward, director Peter Joseph presents a case for a transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which runs modern global society to a new sustainable resource based economy. Everyone suffers under the system that exists and suffering is inevitable, not because of politics or policy, but because of monetary existence. The system is flawed. Money is the problem. The focus should be resources, such as food, health and other aspects.


OPPT has reconfirmed Common Law, the Law of One, Universal Law as the Supreme Law of Creator’s Universe.

Changes are coming that we can not even fathom! Enjoy the Now and BE expectant for great change. We are the creator value and we are All One, equally!

Eternal essence IS, unrebutted;

All value that IS, IS eternal essence, unrebutted;

All value that IS embodied, IS eternal essence, unrebutted;

All that IS, IS eternal essence, unrebutted;

Eternal essence’s universe IS eternal essence, unrebutted;

Any and all existences that ARE, ARE eternal essence’s universe, unrebutted;

All records BE eternal essence, unrebutted;

Eternal essence IS Absolute Light, unrebutted;

Eternal essence is Absolute Love, unrebutted;

Eternal essence IS Absolute Truth, unrebutted;

Eternal essence is Absolute

In Absolute Gratitude, with Absolute Love and Peace, eternal essence embodied does consciously and lovingly duly declare, with full responsibility and liability, the memory, experience and knowing of Absolute Truth, eternal essence , unrebutted;

In Absolute Gratitude, with Absolute Love and Peace, eternal essence embodied does consciously and lovingly duly declare, with full responsibility and liability, the memory and knowing of Absolute Truth, eternal essence embodied in each and all manifestations in any and all existences of eternal essence’s universe, unrebutted;

Eternal Essence Emodied – I Am


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The Collective Imagination
Tuesday, March 12, 2013 (USA)
Wednesday, March 13, 2013 (AEST)
Lisa: Welcome everyone to this week’s Collective Imagination show. The energies are high, aren’t they? I’m going to start by bringing in everybody that we’ve got on hand at the moment. We should have Chris in Melbourne.
Chris: Yes, good morning everybody. It’s a nice cool morning here in Melbourne, which is really a great change. We’ve had about eight or nine days of roasting here. It’s nice for a little bit of respite. You can probably tell by my voice, if I sound like I’ve been talking all night, I actually have. I will tell you about that a little bit later.
Lisa: And we’ve got Bob in Pennsylvania.
Bob: Hello, hello. Good evening everyone. Nice to be here. Wasn’t spending a whole night, lot of time talking, but definitely some unbelievable energy flying around right now.
Lisa: There is indeed. We’ve got Brian in, wherever you are. Where are you?
Brian: I’m everywhere all at the same time. I slept for 10 hours last night. I just got up from an hour nap and I’m still tired. So I’m happy to be here.
Lisa: Well I’m glad to know I’m not the only one. I actually got a nano nap yesterday, which I actually just never do. Yeah, the energies are really, really pumped up at the moment. I want to say hello to everybody in the chat room. It’s a very large list and growing. I believe we’ve also got Heather on the line. Are you on the line? Hello Heather. She’s there.
Heather: Good evening.
Lisa: Are you having power naps as well?
Lisa: We’re all wiped out. We’re all having sleeps and nano naps and 10 hours Brian, did you say? That’s huge.
Brian: 11 including my nap.
Bob: That’s a power coma. That’s not a nap.
Lisa: We did elude to it a little bit yesterday, the energies and sort of what we’re all experiencing and expecting between now and the end of the month. I’m not feeling any respite from it at all. Emotional shake-ups all around. What about you Bob, what’s going on?
Bob: (sigh) Well, I’ve been tired and I’ve been napping, doing the whole power nap thing and everything. Emotionally I’m pretty good, actually. I can feel the energy, definitely. It’s been like a roller coaster probably the last three weeks building up and building up and building up and yeah, it’s been intense. Will say that much.
Lisa: I think I’m in mourning, but I’m not too sure what I’m in mourning for.
Chris: Well, I’m in morning for my sleep routine. It seems to have passed into some other realm and I’m in some other sleep routine. We are adapting, but it’s a process. I must say I actually got a big dose of energy last night from an OPPT meet-up that I attended, which was for the city of Melbourne where I live. There were about thirty or forty people there. It was fantastic because the people who were there and I must say hi to Linda and Rod and a thanks to them to organizing a second meet-up. Also a hi to Emilio who hosted Lisa and I and several other people last weekend for another really intense meeting.
So it’s been ongoing for Lisa and myself for close to a week now; just wham bam, wham bam. This is why we are all kind of going ‘a bit tired today’. The energy I got from the group last night was fantastic, because the big energy release we had from the show yesterday where our wonderful friend and colleague Caleb gave some fatherly tough love; they all got it. The people I talked to really got his message which was fantastic. It was really good.
Lisa: I have to say I was slow off the mark. I wasn’t getting it at first. It wasn’t until a lot of you guys actually in Facebook land and in Skype rooms started sharing what you got that things are starting to click for me. One of the things I really got was the savior meme and how inappropriate that is. If we look at OPPT as a bridge between where we are now and where we want to be, we cannot carry that meme over the bridge is what I got yesterday. Subtly embedded within, and maybe not so subtly, embedded within that savior meme is a belief in hierarchy because you can’t have a savior unless they are greater than. It’s everywhere. It’s so it pervades every aspect of our lives, this hierarchy and savior meme.
Even in the Eastern spiritual religions you’ve got your gurus and your devotees. In the New Age movement, you’ve got your ascended masters. In religion, obviously you’ve got your saviors in standard religion, western religion; whatever you want to call it, but it’s everywhere. I think it’s so embedded in us that we don’t even recognize it half the time. That’s what Caleb did. He came in and slapped us upside the head and said ‘if you continue with the savior meme or with a hierarchy mentality or belief system, somebody will abuse it. Hey, I’ll even abuse it. If you look at me as a trustee, as a savior I’ll screw you over’. We won’t need the cabal to screw us over. We will do it to ourselves again and again and again.
Bob: Again and again and again. It kind of reminds me of, in that movie “The Lord of the Rings”, when Frodo offered Galadriel the ring and she stood there and before, “instead of the dark lord, you would put a queen and I would be beautiful and terrible at the same time”. Anybody in that position, where you’re in a position of authority and you’re exercising authority over another, it’s a corrupting energy. It doesn’t allow, in order for you to experience that, someone’s always got to be subjugated.
Lisa: Yep.
Bob: That’s just not where we want to be. Another thing that last night really showed, the only way it’s possible for you to be disappointed is if you have put your hope in an external source. If you put your hope in an external source, not only will you be disappointed, you’re likely to be disappointed. Did we just lose?
Lisa: No.
Bob: Am I still, okay, I just heard, oh we lost Heather.
Lisa: We lost Heather, yeah.
Chris: No surprise there.
Lisa: No surprise there, no.
Bob: What I’ve found is that it’s always, the OPPT is the name that we’ve given for an idea, a movement. Call it what you will, but it’s all us. It’s us who’ve created an amazing thing in just, oh my goodness, how long has it been? Who’s counting?
Lisa: Not long.
Chris: Two months.
Bob: Two months? We’ve got a whole entire worldwide movement going. Me and Brian, we were just talking with Tyrel Ventura and Sean Stone from Jesse Ventura Conspiracy Theory and their new show. So it’s breaking into the mainstream, where it’s taken notice all over the world of who you are and what you are doing. Everyone’s taking notice. If you’re in that space, you’re still listening, so obviously you’re tuned in. If you’re in that space, you can’t be disappointed. It’s impossible, because you know it’s you that’s creating it. You know where you want to go. You know what you want to do. You know what you want to be. That’s just the way it’s going to be, regardless of how it’s going to happen; it’s going to be. You are free. When you know that, you can’t un-know it.
Lisa: (affirmative response) I love it.
Chris: Yep. I think the most important…OPPT, four letters. The only ones that matter are the first two. Cross out the last ones.
Lisa: One People.
Chris: Absolutely. The One People. That’s what this is all about. It’s about us. Us being us and doing what we need to do, to get to that point where it’s just us here and hierarchy. We are the ones who are actually controlling our own destiny, our own planet.
Lisa: I’m trying to bring her back in. Heather, I think we should give you the floor while we’ve got you.
Heather: No, no, I’m sorry, it was a charger issue. We’re good on internet; I took care of that today.
Lisa: Well, everybody wants to hear from you anyway. What would you like to share at this point?
Heather: Perhaps I should clarify a few things. I think that might help a bit. Lot of questions that we get. Then I’d really like to spend as much time with your callers, as they’re the ones who always bring the questions. I never get shook(?) from them. So, the main question everyone has always asked at what point or another, is who appointed us trustees? It’s a very good question.
The answer is very revealing on even everyone else’s status. The OPPT is a tool. I am a trustee over my BE’ing and my value. Caleb is a trustee of his value, his BE’ing. Randal is a trustee over his value and his BE’ing. When we went in to get our value and our BE’ings back, we saw everyone else’s value and BE’ings there. It took us a long time to get in there, to go get it. We all asked ourselves ‘if someone else had this opportunity, would we want them to get the stuff for us and bring it out?’ So that’s what we did and (inaudible) we’ve just been standing by. OPPT is like a lost and found box. Everyone’s value is there for them to take. OPPT is just a tool. Everyone is a trustee over their own value. The reason we bonded ourselves is because we knew we were holding on basically to everyone’s BE’ing and value until they came in to claim it. A lot of people don’t even know what their value is.
A lot of people are asking, which is the next question, CVAC. When are the CVACs going to be coming out? When are the CVACs? Well you know what, I am a CVAC. Lisa’s a CVAC. Creation’s Value Asset Center. It was that alone, even itself, just a tool. When we contacted American Kabuki, Brian, Kauilapele regarding that Poof consult, it was because some (inaudible) information had been delivered through that consultation, or what they were calling at the time an interview. We knew there was dirty dealing, horse trading, going on behind the curtain. I wasn’t sure which side or where it was emanating from or who was behind it specifically. I knew that it was just East to West and they had used our (inaudible) at BIS to (inaudible), to horse trade. When they gave the information on Hong Kong, there’s only one man, the General. With that information, knowing they were shuffling essentially the corporations and at one point the corporation material would come out that every ‘country’ was just operating under the guise of the people’s governments. The tool that the people could use at some point of saying ‘What is your authority? What is your standing? What law are you operating under?’.
We went in and did the CVAC filing. Because if we registered the corporations for the people, it would stop them from being able to commercially transfer the paper from West to East. Along with the foreclosure, we were starving the beast, until we could get the news out to the people. That ‘Hey, here’s your lost and found, dig through, grab your stuff and go’.  So, I really want people to understand what the CVACs were. At that moment, they were a tool to keep them from stealing what we’d just gone in and gotten for everyone. Now, whether everyone wanted it or not, okay I can get that. I get that. So if you want, take your stuff out of the lost and found box, so to speak and then hand it back to the powers-that-were and you can go back in and try to get it. Otherwise, just take your stuff, BE and DO, because when you BE and DO, they can’t steal it anymore.
So I really hope these clarifications your understanding what we were thinking when we were doing it. It was just a matter of maneuvers to keep protecting everything. Really, (inaudible) bringing up his emails, there was a question just wanted to…I think there was a moment when he just wanted to given them all a Notice and say ‘Thank you very much. Get the hell out of Dodge. Get out of our universe.” It has to do with the clip that I’d sent him on YouTube. I was like ‘Well, we actually did that. Bye-bye corporation. Unless you can show us that you’re not a corporation, bye-bye”. (inaudible) all the corporations. It was a tool at the time for also the powers-that-were. We had said ‘no more negotiating, no more horse trading’. This was back in the end of October, beginning of November. When we had that piece of information that was the General (inaudible), we said ‘fine, here’s the CVAC system’. We registered it as a government, so that the powers-that-were knew how to switch over and here’s how you do it. ‘You say that you’re bonded to the people, that you are the people’s government. Here’s a system that mirrors it.’
That’s sort of our point yesterday. That tool was a mirror of the old, so that the old could actually come in, start fresh and say ‘I am beholden to the people. I’m your public servant. I pretended to be your public servant. I really am. I’m bonded. No questions about it. All transparency.’ They didn’t do it. They couldn’t; they were too fearful.
The question yesterday that was brought up really, in a manner of speaking, if you want a different result then change the formula. Change the formula. I said all  along these are just tools and we’re not here to be your trustees. We’re guarding it, that’s until you get it and come in and doing wonderful BE’ing and DO’ing.  Because you know what, Caleb, Randall and I are doing the same thing you are; BE’ing and DO’ing; being responsible.  We’re being liable for what we personally do (inaudible), but we are not going to step in and do for all of your BE’ing and all of your DO’ing.  That’s your job number one and that is a betrayal, an invasion in our hearts.  So I hope that clarifies those two points. 
The CVAC systems, yes I wrote it up, it was ready to go last week.  I went to go file it on Saturday and then all of a sudden I started having issues with internet, I mean just more incredibly so than ever before.  I couldn’t get any internet to save my life.  And it was a matter of “Okay, what’s going on cognitively, eternally, internally. What is it that’s holding this particular thing back?”  Well, on Monday I found out, well actually this morning, I found out ‘cause I didn’t have any internet whatsoever to see what was going on last night.  But I did get to read everybody’s stuff this morning.  It was a huge forceful power.  My gosh, the rooms, all of them, because there’s you know at least thirty of them in my Skype list, the words, the vehicles changed.  They were all over the place, but I could see the power was constant.  It was exponential; it was perpetual. I sat there amazed at the power that was going through those rooms and all I could sit there and think about was “Now where do you want to pay that energy into; an old system, a now system, yourself, your neighbor, your earth?  What is it, because there’s a hell of a lot of energy?”  That kind of energy moves universes.  So those are my clarifications. 
Yes, the CVAC systems are up, but do you want, and there’s a difference between a CVAC which all people, all the BE’ings in Source’s universe are CVACs; they’re already existing.  You are the value!  All the data that exists shows you.  You know you are the value because that is where the powers-that-were put all their time in controlling and managing; who you BE and what you DO.  So until you wake up on what the real value is…when you keep looking at dollars, I know people are not looking at the paperwork if they continue to refer to dollars or the gold and the silver. The gold and the silver want to play, hell yeah!  But they’re BE’ings just like you are.  If you’re going to recognize them as anything less than what you BE, then magnetically you’re going to push that gold and silver away.  It will never be in your hands, or it will be in your hands, but it will magnetically be pushed away in the shortest manner of time.  That’s by you, or the person doing it!  Those that receive it by BE’ing, living, honoring and recognizing it, say “Let’s co-operate, let’s co-create”. You’re gonna find more and more gold and silver flowing into your pockets. It just wants to have fun. It wants to DO. It wants to create.  So that’s where we are. 
The question that I have, if everyone had, and this is where we were going, because this is where Caleb, Randall and I would like to be, is Absolute Data, Absolute Knowledge, having the Absolute Tech. It’s like Keshe; that tech’s been around forever. I know a group of people, for at least the last twenty years, who tried to get that tech out and I have to ask myself, “Why now?”  So to me it comes out of left field. Yes, I’ve seen all that stuff before; people worked with it.
For me, it’s all irrelevant. The only thing that is, is me and my Creator. I am co-creator. I have the power to go in and do that and so does everyone else. I don’t see anyone more important or anyone less important than me. We’re all the centers. So that’s the choice of everyone. Do you want the same result? Don’t change the formula. If you want a different result, then you gotta change the formula.  Caleb, Randall and I decided on our own, in our own ways, “Yeah, we want to change the formula”.  But you know what, Caleb and Randall’s formula is not the same as Heather’s formula.  I will say the results are the same, (garbled) by our free will and not damaging any other.  But if we do damage someone, we will be liable for it; that’s really our formula.  So like I say, Caleb’s formula’s a little different, so is mine, and so is Randall’s. I’m sure so are many others. 
I see it and for the last three weeks since the CVAC systems have been mentioned and for the last two especially, I have been playing global lawyer across a planet keeping the powers-that-were at bay because what they see is old formula – we know this formula.  We know what the result will be, so let’s maneuver it. They have been maneuvering and I’ve been counter-maneuvering. 
Well, I’ll be honest with you, not only do I not want to be a trustee over anyone else’s things, neither does Caleb, neither does Randall, because we would like to co-create with all of you guys something different.  But we also, I don’t want to be the lawyer and that’s what Caleb was saying, “If you want me to work to be your whatever”, I haven’t listened to the radio show so I don’t know what he said, but I will say, “If you want me to be a lawyer” then that’s energy I’m putting out, which means that energy I can’t put out co-creating something else. Because I’ve got to sit here and play global lawyer, I’ve got to sit here and play with the old systems. 
Now if there was a way for everyone to have absolutely all the same data and everyone all at once plugging into the same grid and having everything all at once, absolute eternal conscious, would you chose that or would you choose the mirror formula, the old formula?  That’s the question to be asked, because that what needs to be decided here. So that’s all that I have to say for now, but huge amounts of energy last night. I was so incredibly in awe and inspired and I don’t know if you all know how much power and energy you pulled down last night?
Lisa:  I don’t know how many people have really understood what you’ve said based on the questions and the comments that are coming through the chat room.  They’re all over the place and I’m not even going to try today to be devil’s advocate and speak for them.  So, one thing I did hear out of that was, is what you’re saying that the powers-that-were are trying to take advantage and manipulate the CVAC systems?
Heather:  Well yeah, I mean they see a whole bunch of people going in and wanting to BE and DO, yet they don’t have the confidence that they’re BE’ing and DO’ing correctly.  Well, there is no standard, so the people talking about having CVAC systems which mirror the governments, right? 
Lisa:  Are they?
Heather:  Yeah, but what they thought was government.
Lisa:  Yeah, they can’t have been listening to these shows if that’s what they think a CVAC is, or a CVAC system is. 
Heather:  Okay wait, people don’t even know what a CVAC system is anyway, right?  I’m getting many emails and they’re saying, “Okay I want the CVAC like this…”.  Well you are the CVAC; I’ve said it many times.  You are the value, that is just (inaudible) if you look at the paperwork that’s what it says.  And not just the CVAC filings for the government which was registered as government, but it was systems and the branch network.  CVAC was defined prior to that in the filings.  You are the CVACs, the systems themselves, yes those are the system of treasury.  I’m saying having the system of treasury period and then anything beyond that point, you all decide in the manner that you want, because they’re watching and hoping that we’ll hold onto the old systems because that’s what they’re familiar with. That’s what they can go in and work with. From Adnan Sakli to even non-galactics and it’s because they were into, there was so much horse trading/horse dealing, such as the Keshe Foundation release of free energy, but only on condition you sign a (inaudible).
Lisa:  Okay, I see what you’re saying. I actually think that once the treasury system, or access to value is up, is available to everyone, then no matter what we call them, the equivalent of a CVAC system will just automatically and organically form from the people coming together in their DO’ing.  And they will…
Heather:  Well, that’s what I’m saying, that’s what I’m saying Lisa.  Because if you sit there and structure everything, because when you have those funds, or the value, I don’t like the word funds, when you have that value your whole concept of what systems you would like are going to change just within your BE’ing and in your molecular and cellular structure, because all of a sudden you have that value and anything you worried about or paid attention to before is no longer relevant. 
Chris:  That came out in our discussions last weekend, Heather, when we were talking about the transformation.  Speculating about how it would go, the different flavors of it that might happen.  One of the conclusions that we came to is that until we’re much further advanced, we actually won’t know what exactly it is that we need. But that the general opinion was that whatever we did was actually probably going to be rebuilt from scratch and that if we try in any way to mirror what was, we’ll end up again with what was. 
Heather:  Yeah.
Chris:  So it’s difficult to actually sit from this perspective and say ‘Well, we need X, Y and Z’.  The filings specify very broadly the sorts of things you might for practicality’s sake group them into, but goes no further, which is absolutely appropriate because we’re all sitting there and saying, ‘Well, probably the best way to build an education system is to simply start from scratch.  Attract the people to it who really want to work in that way and get it in conjunction with new technology and alternative, you know alternate methods such as the Wizzdom Game etc. and begin a completely new thing’, because if we try and think about mirroring, we’ll just rebuild what we have.
Bob: Just…
Heather:  But if you look, Bob and Chris, if you look at what was written in that filing, knowing at that moment it was written, it was written to counter-maneuver. Basically, shut down the agenda of shuffling commercially of all the paper, of fraudulent paper, that they had made within the corporations. That that loose structure was actually for them.  And yet, it was a very stringent structure compared to what they usually operate under. 
Chris:  Oh yeah.
Heather: The systems operate under much looser…with nothing, no accountability, that’s why that structure was very stringent for them.
Chris:  Oh, from a transparency point of view?
Heather:  Yeah.
Chris: Absolutely, ‘cause the thing that I really like about the specifications you put forward, and at this point I take them as your suggestion about what we could do, ‘cause you know, this is up to us.
Heather:  Right, I’m getting all of this stuff sent to me. Like I said, I’m trustee over my stuff.  Caleb is trustee over his stuff. We would be violating everyone’s free will if we went in and took over trustee over all your guys stuff.  We are guarding it; we’ve always been very clear about that. We’re guarding it for you to come in and pick it up.  Now the only thing that people really want to pick up at this moment in time is value.  That’s the base of it, because with that value they feel they are free to go and then can DO.
Lisa:  Ninety, ninety percent of the comments and questions in here are value related. 
Heather:  Yeah! So…
Lisa:  You know, “When’s the treasury coming up and how can I get access to my value?”  That’s all they want to know.
Heather:  Well, why do you need a system, other than a system of treasury to start with? Because if people get their value, all these organic systems are going to pop up in between and they’re gonna change and flow like a river.
Chris:  Yeah.
Heather:  So, instead of then going and creating 194 branches of this, that or the other, just create a system of treasury and let that automatically expire if you need to, as far as giving everyone their value.  Letting them go in and create from there, their systems if they want representation for their value okay, but everything would change the moment that they have that value.  Let it sit there for let’s say even say 30 term period, whatever it maybe.  Even your systems of value may change.  Depending on what you guys come up with, what I come up with, what Caleb, Randall, everyone in their own respective BE’ing and value. 
Lisa:  So, where are we at then when it comes to the treasury system?
Chris:  Let me just define something. First for fun, because I want to make it absolutely clear what Heather is saying here. The CVACs that she’s talking about filing are the CVAC system entities; the ones that are specified to supply services for the people. What Heather is actually referring to is the fact that if she actually simply creates and opens the treasury function and then allow us to go through this initial process of freeing ourselves and let the rest of it simply grow organically, as and when we need to. Now we may choose to organize ourselves the way it’s specified in the filings, or it may be some other way, but it will grow from the ground up.  Now is that accurate Heather?
Heather:  Yeah, I mean that is very accurate.
Lisa:  Yes, I think that’s clear.
Chris:  Good.
Bob:  I think another thing it’s important for people to realize, we’ve been asleep for a long time.  I mean we’ve been in the dark for a very, very long time and a lot of times when you turn the lights on, it’s kind of blinding for a second. You get your orientation straight and actually get a bearing of where are your surroundings, what day is it, what’s going on. Even for those of us who call ourselves “awake and enlightened”, we’re waking up to a lot of things.
You know the last two months, if you haven’t felt like you’ve been in a 5D university in changing in the way that you think, changing the way that you look at everything, the way that we look at our relationships to each other, the way that we look at our relationship to the earth, the way that we look at our relationship with the universe and with nature itself.  All of that is changing. Sometimes it takes a little bit of smart slaps upside the head for us to actually, “Oh, oh now, now I see”, because a lot of us have been so inculcated in this paradigm that we’re coming out of and in the way that we look at life and the way that we look at actually ourselves and our value.
Like Bashar says, we’ve become masters of limitation. All of us have been going through in the last two months, a great transformation. I can definitively say I am a completely different person consciously than I was two months ago. Everybody who has been on this journey probably can restate that with a sure affirmation that it’s the same for them. I believe that as we’re starting to realize what it is that caused the problem and we’ve all suffered from it, but there’s one thing that I believe that’s really important about what it is that we came through and what it is that we want to take with us when we come to the other side. Not the stuff that we want to leave behind, we all know about what we want to leave behind.
The biggest thing that I want to take with me is my compassion, because I have suffered! I’ve suffered for a long time under this paradigm and so many of us have. We know what it’s like to be downtrodden. I know what it’s like to have someone stand over top of me with a gun to my head telling me what and how I’m going to behave because of my color, because of whatever reason. They only need one excuse, because any one will do. I know what that’s like and that’s something that I’m taking with me in what I do and in my DO’ing. I will never put someone in that position.
It’s something that all of us need to contemplate. This is one of the things I think is necessary, that people get access to their value so they can actually really have room to breathe.  Because despite the fact that commercially everything has already been done, the paperwork has already been done, people are still behaving in their same manners.
Lisa:  Well Bob, I’ll give you an indication. There was just a comment that I saw go past, because they’re going past rather quickly that said that ‘you can’t buy bread with compassion.  (laughs).
Heather:  Well, you can’t buy bread with gold and silver either. You still have to convert that to something else.
Chris: Yeah, but I do get what Bob’s saying and I just got a message from someone on another Skype chat pointing out again that our perspective will, once this process starts, once value is accessed and we access it from the I AM position, from the I AM knowing, it’s going to change us so profoundly that we can’t sit here at this point in time and predict what it is we think we need in two months time, in six months time. We’ll be different, like Bob says. We’ve changed in two months; another two months of the direction we’re going in, we’ll be completely different again. I understand what Heather’s saying that the CVAC system entities are ready to file, but should she?  Would it not be better simply to begin access to value at some appropriate point…
Lisa:  I think people are still confused.
Chris:  …and then…
Lisa: Hang on, hang on Chris, people still seem to be confused. They think if Heather doesn’t file the CVAC system that they don’t get access to value.
Chris: No, that’s not the case. That’s not the case.
Lisa: That’s not the case, so let’s clear…
Chris:  …clear that up right now.
Heather: First off, you need to understand what the “corporations” operating under the guise of governments really were for. It was to push and (inaudible) a whole bunch of commerce and value. If you look at Wikipedia, on one of the littler islands (inaudible for several words) civil “war”, you’ll see that institutions, “governments”, were put in place; administrations were put in place, like Montenegro is a great one.  Look at it and see oh this was put in place, this administration for the financial administration of commerce. Okay, that’s the only thing that really they care about. It’s not governing the people. Yes, the people because you guys actually magnetically draw huge amounts of energy, which is what you did last night. You BE’ing and DO’ing, the powers-that-were couldn’t even handle that truth.  There was so much power there and all they wanted to do was tap into it. As I was reading all your guys’ flow of the energy, you all came out on top with it, still in your back pockets; nobody could steal it. Okay?
So if you go in and you do a CVAC system, I would not do a CVAC system with branches and say ‘okay, you have to operate even under this loose structure, it’s still telling people what to do’. I say make sure everyone has their value. Do a system of finance (inaudible) CVAC branch system to be able to distribute the value. That’s it, once the value is out, then let everything organically go through. I’m going to do as I choose just like so and so is going to do as they choose and as long as nobody damages each other. So I say get the value out first. The CVAC system is registered and that can protect the value as we go through and do this initial (inaudible) disbursement. Here’s the value, now what are you going to create? After last night, I think people are really going to think about that and you know what? OPPT can be retired. I’m tired of being a lawyer; I’m tired of maneuvering.
Lisa: If we can get really clear, hang on Chris, hang on. If we can get really clear and get this answer out now around this treasury system, then all the people who are listening can take a breath and relax. Because they are so anxious about that aspect of it that if they can get their answers around that they can take a breath, they can relax and then they can actually hear what is being said. Because there’s a lot that are completely cool and understanding and know exactly what is going on here. And for those that aren’t, let’s give them what they need now, so that they can relax.
Heather: Yes, get the treasury system up and out; that’s the only thing that I am focused on. Once all the values return, then I can actually go and do what I want. People ask me; what are you going to do with your CVAC when it’s all done here? I am doing with my CVAC; I am investing my energy in returning everything to everyone else. That’s it; that’s all I am doing. So yeah, let’s get the system out.
Chris: I’ll just remind the listeners of one thing, that the trustees put in place one CVAC fully activated. That is the placeholder and we actually are all part of that; e are all individual CVAC’s as well. Well not as well, that is where it begins; the CVAC is a construct that we are making for the purpose of placeholding value at this point. So all that Heather actually needs to do is put the treasury system in place and get it running and everybody has access to it there. Just from that one entity, because that is the way the filing specified. One serves all the 195 was simply an acknowledgement of regional and cultural differences. We’re going to have to answer the question, do we even need that? What Heather is suggesting is that we just go forward with the treasury under the one CVAC system entity that has been implemented, and work it out. Is that right?
Heather: Wait a minute, Chris, that is not what I am…no.
Chris: Okay, correct me.
Heather: Look, I’m saying…I don’t even like the word CVAC’s anymore for the confusion that I see it growing in every way. Okay, nobody can get over this whole value issue, so let’s deal with the value issue and then in the morning wake up and say okay, do we even need a CVAC system? Am I even a CVAC? HELL NO, trash the word. I AM a BE’ing, because that’s all the CVAC is, is a BE’ing. The CVAC was a tool at the moment to maneuver so that the PTW were stuck in the corner and could not shuffle all the fraudulent paper over to the other side. I love all you guys so much. I love myself very much. I respect and honor everyone BE’ing. So at this moment if we can get over the value issue because everyone wants to know when they’re getting the dollars which don’t exist anymore. They want to know when they’re getting their gold and silver, which in itself ends up violating their own construct of BE’ing by enslaving something else.
I’m saying just get value in there. The gold and silver have been underwritten, so that it will be the backing until we all figure out what value is. Do I know what value is? Yes, I saw it all last night sitting in all these Skype rooms as energy. I watched all you guys draw energy down and almost blow Skype up. So for now, let’s go in with the construct where everyone can have access to their value. Buy a bag of bread, put a tank of gas in their car and figure out organically what system, if any, do they need to assist them. Or is it a matter of them giving and serving humanity, themselves, their neighbor, the earth, the environment? Whatever is their passion. Does that boil it down for you? Give them access to their value, that frees them in their own mind, allows them to see what already is and has been done, that they are free.
(Heather and Lisa talking at same time)
Lisa: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. People just want to know how and when they are going to get that access. That’s all they want to know.
Thomas: Can I weigh in on this please?
Lisa: Sure.
Thomas: I just want to put it in a little different perspective to look at. We are the value; we know that we are the value, because without us their corrupt system does not operate. It’s us. If we don’t buy gas and we don’t buy groceries and we don’t go to the pharmacy and we don’t do all those things, their system collapses completely. We are the value, without us they have nothing. Start taking an active approach in the things that you buy, the choices you make, the things that you do. Don’t go out and buy something just because you want it. If you want it, that is fine. Go and buy it, but stop yourself from buying it if it is supporting their system.
Chris: When I was talking to the group last night, one of the things I was trying to emphasize whenever this subject came up was that they are going to amongst the first people in accessing their true value. The biggest responsibility will be showing others around them what it really means, not just that it is a quick fix. But that it really is them working from that I AM position and knowing who they are and stepping away from the old system, all at once. In fact, I actually view the access to value is like a de-programming tool. It’s something we can use to free the other people around us. My speculation about why we got the tough love from Caleb yesterday really boiled down to the fact that this group of people really need to get what it is that is being put in front of them. An opportunity to actually move a very large number of people from one place to a completely different place. If they’re going to go forth and do that, they need to know why. Yeah, there are people out there who at the moment just want to solve their problems, but as Lisa keeps saying, that moment will be followed by the moment when they realize who they are. And there’s…
Lisa: Yeah, but we have to have that moment first.
Chris: We have to have that moment first.
Lisa: That is the only question that everyone wants to hear an answer to right now. How do I get access to it and when does it come online? That’s it. I think everybody would (inaudible) understand.
Heather: That’s what I would propose to do if anything, is go in and instead of filing 194 branches, just go in and say the only thing that’s going to be put online is a temporary treasury system and the people can decide through this temporary moment of distribution of value. Because once the value is distributed, maybe they don’t even want that temporary system anymore. Maybe they create something even greater or maybe they learn what the value really is and they don’t need that system anymore. I would say that the only thing that needs to happen is filing and bonding a treasury system, because for the moment of passing it from the lost and found OPPT box scenario to their hands, you want to make sure that it is safe and secure. Nobody is going to steal it. So that’s the only thing, that I would go in and file in this CVAC system type of a thing. And then from there…
Lisa: I think you’ve got the support of everyone listening with that question, to go ahead and do just that.
Heather: Well, I wouldn’t put in the CVAC structure that the one that we have live, which was only a tool to keep the powers at bay, I wouldn’t even redo that. That’s what I said it needs to be redesigned. I did do the 194 branches and it just didn’t feel right. So here we are, Caleb ripped a bandaid off, like the one we thought was ripped off this whole time is gone, just gone…absolutely.  So here we are, that’s the only thing I would file; once that is filed, have all the value distributed.
Lisa: Well, last week you talked about USB and other devices that could be used. I think that when people tuned in that is what they were expecting to hear is an update on. Instead they got Caleb ripping that last little bit of bandaid off and that’s what has thrown them for a loop.
Heather: At this point, all of the tools to be able to access that value, that all be exactly where they wanted to be for whoever chooses that particular delivery transfer or whatever that may be. Those that are in the consciousness (inaudible) energetic transfer and delivery, they’ll be able to use that. I don’t really care how any decides to use whatever they may decide to use. It’s their value; let them invest where they want to invest, in whatever system they think people will adjust to. I just want to make sure that people have their value. That’s it, because I would like to close the OPPT lost and found.
Lisa: When you talk like though…I know what goes on in a lot of heads. I need something that the person down at the shop is going to recognize and accept. I need something that the bank is going to accept. I need something that the guy down at the car yard is going recognize and  accept.
Heather: Okay, I can agree with the exchange of value that’s acceptable whoever you are exchanging with. As far as the banks and all of that, they all know as far as where they stand right now. They are going to have to go in and repurpose themselves. They’re going to have to go in, hopefully if the people are awake enough, that when the people walk in the bank, the people know that they actually have all the value. They are the value and the banks in order to breathe at this moment need you to believe in them. You are the creditor. They are the debtor or the custodian (inaudible). They can even put it on paper and let you walk out with the original copy of the paper. If they say no, it stays in the, that is the same old same old. So as far as banking and all of that, I am sorry, as a former banker and as former attorney and all of that, I don’t trust the systems, those old systems, to change. We’ve already gone through that whole “here’s a change, here’s how you can change, here is a safe secure place where you can actually do what you say you’re going to do or what you’ve been doing”. None of them, they are all scared, so it’s the people. It’s going to be us that changes how everyone else thinks about us, because we think about ourselves differently in the first place. We can value ourselves. We can say ‘I am the value’. Now I’m going to walk in and I’m going to be kind and gentle. I’m going say ‘bank, would you like a lifeline today? If I even choose and I’m willing to go ahead and give you my business, but these are my terms and conditions; it is mine’.
Lisa: Hasn’t that been tried before and not worked?
Heather: What did you say?
Lisa: Hasn’t that been tried before and not worked?
Heather: Well, you are the one that brought up banking Lisa. Would I walk into a bank? No. Would I walk into a court anymore? Hell no. Okay, you brought up bank, everyone else seems to have bank on the mind. So now we have moved on from value, but now they want to know ‘well, what (inaudible) about my bank’. They’re still walking into the court room and they’re not even courtrooms. They’re private court departments of corporations that are dead, foreclosed on. Yet they still want to go in and fight. So until you guys figure out how you want to BE, meanwhile I’m over here figuring out how I want to BE. Now I just know that I only want to be responsible for myself and that’s what I have been trying to tell you guys all along, very softly very gently. Because a lot of people to even come out, to have that light switch (inaudible) we talk about coming on, after being in the dark for so long.
Yeah okay, maybe I hand held a lot more than Caleb does; we can see where we are very different. Yet we still know where the top of the mountain is. I want to be free to do what I want to do and I won’t damage anyone else. If I do, I will be responsible for it. I will be liable for it. So that is really it, be responsible, be liable for you, everything you say everything you do, that is it. Now get up and the point is get your value; yeah, I can help with that. We will go in and make sure everything is dispersed and then after that, I would really like to co-BE and co-DO with other people. I would really like to see my family.
Lisa: Yeah, I know how that feels. Can we move onto some callers because there’s quite a few lining up?
Heather: Yep.
Lisa: I got caller 773 area code…..hello, yes what was your name?
Carlos (caller): My name is Carlos. I am calling from Los Angeles. First of all, I want to thank everyone for being here. I have a quick question for Heather. It is about the repurposing, when she wrote the part that says ‘Creator is now closing the old ways per se, and is now going to repurpose’. My question is…is that something that it was predetermined in time to happen at a certain time or was it became about? Because the first BE’ing that awoke to this and studied it, this is what created the repurposing? I don’t know if I am clear on the question?
Heather: So let me make sure I understand your question correctly. You’re asking about the OPPT and the duration of the OPPT?
Carlos (caller): There’s a statement that saying that Creator is repurposing from knowing himself. I mean, he decided to forget or forget self, in order to know self.
Heather: The experiment?
Carlos (caller): Right, so is this something that was predetermined to come about at this time? At a specific time? Or is it something that was to be brought about from the first BE’ing that was awakened?
Heather: I think that is a personal question for everyone, I do believe and I know that it’s time for the old (inaudible). I know that all of Source’s universe conspired for every move that I have been doing and every move that OPPT has been or any of us being on the call together tonight has come together. Yes, the time for all that old stuff, the time for the experiment is over and it’s time for everyone to know who they BE. That they BE co-creator, eternal presence, embodied. Now go and co-create. Know who you are. Know what you can do and create (inaudible) better. But that’s my (inaudible) opinion; that’s what I know within me. So I would have to say that’s something you should ask within each of yourselves. But seems like we’ve all gravitated here and nexused together in a particular moment about (inaudible). I want to BE and I want to BE me and I don’t want anyone telling me what to BE.  
Carlos (caller): Okay. Thanks a lot. I guess if I can ask the question straight up, for where you were saying we’re not going to get access to actual money because we foreclosed the bank or you foreclosed the banks. So, I guess the access to value is going to be completely different as everybody thinks.
Heather: If you go in and you do a backing of gold and silver, precious metals, whatever backing you want, something asset, tangible, then from there each person decides how they want to cut a representation. Really, the only person that can do that is the issuer, the creator, of that value. So yes, the thing that would be set up is an actual, tangible system that’s going to support however you guys want to move. Whether it’s digital for those that prefer digital, thumb drives or credit cards. Not credit cards, but the magnetic strips cards that are like data whatever you need it to be that resonates with you to transfer and transact with your value. All of that is still on the table, but as far as the financial (garbled) that is what is being created and implemented.
Carlos (caller):  Seems like it’s going to be a long time thing to come about and be used for per se for people like, let’s say the bank is foreclosed. So now I don’t want to pay my mortgage because it is fraud.  You cannot just say that and they are probably going to take your house anyway.
Heather: If you go into all of that, if you want to pay a debt that doesn’t exist, that’s your own choice. In the bank trade and finance, he who has the wallet pulls the plug; that’s how it has always been.  That’s why they control the system of the wallet. Once you get your value, that’s why I say you can do whatever you want with your value. If you feel bad for the guys that have been lying to everyone and want to pay off that mortgage which doesn’t exist, that’s okay. That’s your choice. I’m concerned, not concerned, I’m focused. I’m paying attention to make sure that financial system is up, temporary or not, just to deliver the value. Then at that point, you can do whatever you want with your value. It’s not a long term thing; the gold, the silver and the precious metals are already all in existence.
Lisa: Heather, I know that. Being in the position where you don’t have the money and you’re struggling to pay the money to try to pay off your mortgage and things like that and they’re coming after you, is a really intense energy to be in. As soon as you’ve actually got the money to pay it off if you could, that’s such a completely different energy. You won’t want to pay them then once you become in a position where you can. You suddenly become empowered to not to.
Heather:  Well, that’s okay. That is the point though. I’m focused on getting the value out, then you guys make your choices however you want to make it. That’s beautiful; that’s beautiful. I’m so excited to see how everyone does. I’m going to focus, pay my attention and make sure that system is up so the value can be delivered.
Lisa:  Thank you, Carlos. We’re going to move on to the next question. Next caller, which is area code 646. Area code 646, you have your hand up?
Rick:  Oh my gosh, hello I do, it’s Rick.
(Several say Hi to Rick)
Rick:  Rick from Connecticut. This is awesome; this is exactly what I was hoping to hear tonight.  Although I understand not a lot of concrete answers for people, I glanced at the chat. I can’t stand to really be in it anymore. I have to really concentrate on what is being said, particularly when Heather is talking, because I have to really like focus on everything that’s going on.  There is a lot of what I call metaphysical overlay, which is great because I’m down with that.  I imagine there are a number of people that aren’t. 
On to the questions if I may, which I wrote down tonight so that I could be as concise as possible. First of all, I really appreciate what happened last night with Caleb and how Heather is responding to that. I think they have always talked about transparency and I think the transparency is the inevitable forerunner of Oneness and connectedness. That’s what we all seem to be moving towards in an Aquarian consciousness. There are people still out there with a tendency towards secrecy and this reflective aversion towards a diminishing of their privacy or rights because they distrust the present system and that makes sense. It seems to be resistant to a universal calling of just laying down our fears of not having or being judged. All the while still maintaining a kind of watchful eye, because we’re still concerned that the powers-that-were which have been unseated will still try and do some sort of retaliation. That causes that harm that we talked about; that peace of mind or peace of spirit which is being taken away from us. Which is what a lot of people, including the last caller, are talking about as far as paying their mortgage and doing their duty and being a good citizen or being a good critic or what the hell ever. 
Right now my first question is, I don’t hear or read a lot of excitement about the genuine potential for BE’ing and DO’ing as a free human. What I hear is a lot of anxiety about the how and when of disbursements, so that people can buy staples or like Seraph said last night ‘shop till he drops’…whatever. There are people I’ve noticed in chats and in articles who just seem really distracted and disheartened by their pain. Their physical pain with regard to illnesses they have. Their emotional pain in regards to their relationship with dysfunctional humans, dysfunctional systems and dysfunctional institutions. They don’t seem to be able to look past the nose on their face to grasp the metaphysics that I hear spoken of quite a lot particularly when Heather is on the call. The far reaching vision and fundamentally how we are genuinely going to BE in this new construct and this new paradigm. It seems like a large part of the effort in shifting human society is going to be us with a little bit more vision, a little bit more courage, and a little bit farther ahead on the trail. How are we going to facilitate the more pitiful people, the confused people, the angry and disoriented and resistant people?  That’s going to be a big part of the work of getting some of humanity along the path. Last night, I’m sorry Lisa, last night it was pitchforks and torches in that chat room. It was really disheartening from my perspective.
Lisa:  I know. I know. The people heard when Caleb said he didn’t want the CVACs or the treasury system, people heard you’re not getting one. That’s not what he said. That’s just what they heard. It went sort of exponentially ballistic from that point on.
Heather:  He just meant that it wasn’t what he wanted for himself, but he understood the tracking part (inaudible). It’s not what we want; it’s what we create
Lisa:  Not a great connection at the moment, Heather. I wasn’t quite sure what you said there.  Rick, did you actually have a question?
Rick:  Yeah, I actually have two. One is directly for Heather and one is for the group, so which one would you like first?
Lisa:  Whatever order you’ve got them in is fine.
Rick:  Okay, group first. Since our present society is based on a number of critical systems, from monitoring nuclear reactors to making sure psychotics get their medication, I’m wondering with all of the BE’ing and DO’ing particularly as new technologies become available and more people like us are OPPTing In and claiming their BE’ing and claiming their own value, how the trustees might have considered what the transition period might look like?  What types of formidable guidelines we might being to co-create for those who have recognized their value? After all, freed slaves have historically not been so organized and rational minded and their ability to execute conscious ways of BE’ing?  Go.
Lisa:  I think Bob might have an answer for that one.
Chris:  Rick, that’s a whole show.
Lisa:  Brian, are you moving around a lot again?
Brian:  I’ve been on mute this whole call. I just want to say I’m being quiet on this call, because I am tired and for everybody to ask me to talk here you go. I love you and I’m going to go ahead and re mute myself.  (Chuckles)
Lisa:  Now the room’s hand is up.
Bob:  I think there’s only one way to do that and it’s by example. The only way that you can really affect anybody…this is what I think when we talk about systems of assistance, we’re not out to try to save anybody. We DO by our example; show them a better way. You can’t push a rope. Everybody’s got a choice that they are going to have to make individually of what they want to do and where they want to go. A lot of people don’t even realize that they have an option. They don’t even realize that they have the option to move into a direction where they can be free.  I believe that each of us that have found and discovered that way.
Everybody can choose what they want, but I believe that if you are compassionate and empathic, you will show by your example to help others see that way. I think it will happen a lot faster than you realize, because look at how fast we’ve got to where we are with just the OPPT. If everybody has their value, I tell you what, you’re going to get a lot of people talking pretty loud. When they have that value and they can actually feel it and realize it, you’re going to get a lot more confident people showing each other, their family, friends and anyone you can talk to on how to do it. That’s the difference between assisting and saving someone. You assist them to come to that realization. You assist them by your example to come to that understanding that option that they have and allow them the space in order to contemplate and exercise that option.
(Several talking at once)
Chris:  I am going to answer actually with something Bob said because he phrases things so well. Lading should actually be about serving. The message I was trying to get through last night to people that were receptive to it, is that it’s their job to serve people around them and bring this message to them. Now that ground-up approach is really the best way of doing this, because it requires time. One of the issues I can see is coming from this sort of urgency for access to value is that people are so damaged by the experiences of their lives they just need a breather. As Bob said, give someone time a little bit of time to actually reassess things after pulling the stress off of them. You get a different thought pattern happening particularly if you can work with them and direct them. That’s one of the things I see taking place in the early stages of this thing, because we are really just talking about the early stages. 
I worked out, based on some things we got the other day, that there is about .085% of the planet that even know about this yet. So we’ve got a massive job of education.  Now we know that there are specific events that will take place and things will jump to the mainstream media and it’s going to do whatever it’s going to do. But in the meantime, we really have to hold that space that we are with. Everybody needs to just sit back a bit and chill and think about it, then the creativity will start to come out.
There is some stunning, as this grows and the people that are currently drinking the Kool-Aid and stuck in the system whatever come to hear about this, can you imagine there are some stunningly talented people all across our whole society who are currently working in industry, some of them in government, in education, in health, do you think they won’t leap at this? Do you think their creativity won’t just go WOW? Provided we hold that space (garbled). When that energy is released and brought to bear, then the sorts of things like ‘how do we make sure the nuclear reactors don’t blow up?, et cetera’. Well, that’ll just fall into place. We’re just not there yet. We don’t want to think about that stuff from a fearful position. We want to look forward to that creative blast that is going to take place at some point when this reaches mainstream and everyone just goes ‘Wow!’
Rick:  Bob and Chris, I love your answers. I like it when a glass is half full and it’s nice cold fresh lemonade instead of warm piss. So that is really great. I want to get off and get on to the next person real quick. This one is for Heather. Heather darling, are you there?
Heather:  Yeah, yeah, I’m here.
Rick:  Wonderful. What event were you referring to in a post that was on the chat on Facebook with Prince Taylor regarding the Quantum Healing Hypnosis that spoke about a shift awakening? Because frankly, I think that wouldn’t hurt to have that present and happening now or soon.
Heather:  Yeah, in fact we had a trustees meeting between the three. We want to make sure that everyone can just BE and have all of the tools to BE. We see all of this maneuvering. I know that we are as transparent as we can be regarding what is happening right now behind the curtains with the agenda family members calling us and them trying to see is there really grace here.  They have something that appears to come out (garbled). Then you have Christine Lagarde trying to maneuver the IMF the legal (garbled). Can you hear me?
Lisa:  We are losing you; you’re really crackly.
Heather:  Is this better?
Lisa:  Yes.
Heather:  Okay. The point is that all of these maneuvers, they all go away if everyone has access to the same Absolute Grid. The grid, which all of the old slavery systems were actually copied from and only in part so that they could control it. If everyone had access to the Absolute Grid which included Absolute Data, Absolute Consciousness, that was actually where over the last weekend we’ve been moving and preparing everything that includes access to Absolute Value.  That that destruction can be taken away if everyone has their value. All of a sudden that isn’t issue anymore. They don’t focus on it and they actually focus on what they want to DO with that value. 
Lisa:  That’s right.
Heather:  That’s where we were maneuvering everything. We got one particular phone call having to do with that. There were some people that were very not happy, really not happy, that everyone would have Absolute Access to the Absolute Grid which they had copied in part for their enslavement systems. So if everyone has that access, then all of a sudden you know everything. You know who the powers-that-were were. You know what they are doing. 
So Christine Lagarde was probably the best example over the weekend. Someone said ‘Oh, Christine is going to be launching the Wanta-Mitterand Protocols, the FTRs, the RV, the PPs; all of this stuff. Yet the agenda families knew that if she does that it’s the ones that are behind her that are going to pay the price.  This isn’t a moment of Absolute Current or energetic accountability or bookkeeping.  Even if she is the one that implements it, they are the ones that are going to take the liability for it. Instead of allowing her to do that, they put out the information about her participation in certain events of embezzlement. All of a sudden, none of that stuff came out that she wanted to implement. 
So there is a lot moving behind the curtain. I’d really rather just have that curtain pulled back, because guys I just really want to go and create something different a new experience. So that article, that morning we’ve been working on the last three days prior, I was really excited because someone grabbed it and pulled it down. That is exactly what is happening…Absolute Access to Absolute.
Lisa: So she (Christina Lagarde) was essentially hung out to dry by them.
Heather:  Yep.They hung her out to dry, but at the same time they made a proposal. The East has this heavenly mandate supposedly that when it all comes back to the East, they will do for the higher good of all. Well, I can tell you right now the West was never the West. The West was a front man for the East. So they never gave up anything; they just physically were going to move the house back.  (Garbled) It’s been them running it all along. So no, the heavenly mandate that was camouflage (garbled). Right now, the only mandate is that everybody is Co-Creator. Everyone is responsible for the value that’s within them. Give them the value so that it’s no longer a distraction and they can heal whatever needs to be healed in any way.  (Inaudible) 
Lisa:  You were cutting in and out again.
Rick:  You were cutting in and out quite a little bit, but I think I get the gist of it. I’m just not clear on…there was a disconnect as far as how the Quantum Healing Hypnosis that was between the two women I believe. That was what I believe was referred to that link was referring to, but you cut out.
Heather: Putting into words or script, they were actually putting down on paper or on the internet what we had been working on for three days prior to that.
Rick:  Right, that’s what I got and then where I kind of lost you was there was a lady that was hung out to dry; that part I didn’t get because you were cutting in and out.
Heather:  The IMF. They know that all of…with that particular article or internet exchange that I posted up…I was so excited because it was what we were working on for three days. All of a sudden, there it was manifested by somebody else that was not involved, at least with what we were doing in this particular manifestation. Here it was and at the same moment the powers-that-were, they led us that way as well. They hung Christine Lagarde, the head of the IMF, out to dry.
Rick: Got it. Googling on that, thank you.
Heather: Yeah.
Lisa: Thank you Rick.
Rick: Thank you. You guys are so awesome. Thank you for letting me vent a little bit at the beginning.
Lisa: That’s okay. Area code 617…area code 617. Hello? Hang on; it’s not unmuting for some reason. Area code 617? You there?
Caller: Hello.
Lisa: Hello. What was your name?
Caller: Can you hear me okay?
Lisa: Well, just hear you, but you’re a bit muffled.
Caller: I’m just listening. This is Steven from Thailand.
Lisa: Hi Steven from Thailand. Okay, well I will mute your phone if you don’t have a question and we’ll move on to the next caller. Thank you.
Steven (listener): Thank you.
Lisa: Area code 541.
Caller: Hey everyone, this is Zaruga.
Lisa: Hello Zaruga. How are you?
Zaruga (caller): I’m doing good, how ‘bout everyone on the panel? 
Lisa: We’re pretty good.
Zaruga (caller): Let’s see, first of all, I think I wanted to clear up where some of the misinformation and the confusion about the CVACs versus the reality came from. There was an interview I think last week with Angel Lucci where Heather was scheduled to be on but couldn’t get on due to technical difficulties as has been the case. He described his vision of the system as he understood it at that moment and described it as a swipe-card system. He was expecting to get a card in the mail and be able to go on a trip and stuff like that. I think a lot of people took that as Absolute Data, because he had been in contact with Heather and just ran with it. It’s created a lot of unfortunate expectations of a specific means of manifesting this. You know what I’m saying? 
Brian: Was that a question?
Zaruga (caller): No, I just wanted to clear that up for people because a lot of people feel, are suggesting that they feel mislead by things that Heather has suggested. I can point to that specific interview as the point where the information might’ve gone off the rails a little bit.
Heather: Yeah. I’m not even sure what interview you’re talking about with Angel. I didn’t receive any notice of it, but here’s what I can tell you. First off, who am I? I’m not anymore important or less important than anybody else. I see everyone putting OPPT and the trustees up on a pedestal and that’s not where we belong. That’s not even where we wanna be. I think that those are other people’s, what Caleb was saying, a shining white knight on a horse. We’re in there to save our own BE’ings, our own value, and responsibly manage that and responsibly use that, okay? Like I said, OPPT is just a tool and I’ve said that from the beginning.
Everyone else is a trustee of their own BEing. So please remember that if you’re going to put someone up on a pedestal, make sure that’s what they choose and where they wanna be and whether that’s really what you want. Is someone more important than you? Are you more important than them? For me, no. I’m as equal as everybody else and everybody else is as equal as me. So I can’t help that other people have certain expectations, but those are their expectations; they’re not mine. All I can do is keep doing what I’m doing, stand in truth, stand in integrity and stand in transparency and be responsible. So yep, go ahead and ask some questions. I’ll stand where I stand. It doesn’t mean you stand there with me, but this is where I stand. Here’s my notice.      
Zaruga (caller): Right. I understand all of that and it all makes sense to me. I’m with you, because I have plans on what I wanted to do to help create a new world long before I knew any of this stuff existed and had these things as tools so I still have that playbook as sort of my life mission statement, of why I’m here. I’m just pointing out where the information got confused for people as I see it, and not to stand on any of those expectations at all. I just think it’s an example of some of the challenges we have ahead of ourselves in terms of Absolute Data coming out and really understanding what’s going on versus this chain of what people are speculating on which then becomes, somehow enters the mass consciousness like ‘Oh, this is what’s happening’ and then by the time the data actually comes out, we see where we’ve been confused, and being able to backtrack to where those splits happen. That’s helpful in being able to sort through ‘cause let’s face it, there’s a lot in this information going around and it’s only gonna get, unless we deal with it now, it’s only gonna get worse as the information spreads.
I really see that that’s where I personally want to move to is being able to spread this information to people and thankfully manifest it in my life now. I’m in a situation where within just a couple of weeks I’m gonna go from having no place to live to having a place and being stable. I know there’s a lot of people out there right now that are frozen for whatever reason. They’re on the board and they can’t move. Well, I just wanna let you guys know that I’m gonna be freed up and I’m gonna be moving for people who can’t move. My job is gonna be collecting anyone else who’s free to move at the same time and see what we can do with or without the access to value. Of course that makes it a lot easier, but really the value is in what we can do and if we can gather all the people who are willing and say “Hey who wants to go create an anti-gravity city?’ as a pie-in-the-sky example that is something that could possibly be manifested in the next twenty, thirty years.
Let’s take, example, we want everyone to have access to the same things. A good example would be let’s find out how we can get together and make sure everyone has cell phones, smart phones, access to the internet so that information that’s out there is. There’s this gulf between what we have access to here in the first world and what people have access to in other countries. It’s just gonna start with us coming together and brain storming on how do we get these things to other people.    
Heather: I think you’re gonna find so much changes when all of a sudden you have access to that value. You’re able to see yourself and what you can do, before talking about property. Moving into the banks, believe me it’s you have the value. You’re holding the cheque book so to speak, worlds change. Worlds change.
Brian: I just wanna bring up one point here real quick before you go to the next caller. Bcause he brought up a good point on the data and getting points of data, ‘cause there’s a lot of data out there, a lot. Almost too much, than you can even filter through it all, but what we haven’t gotten to a point yet is where this Absolute Data that keeps being talked about is out. I want everybody to really sit on that idea, of what that idea of what Absolute Data means. Absolute Data means absolute, meaning no stone left unturned. It’s all absolutely on the table and when that moment comes of Absolute Data, and everybody’s answers, all the answers that are coming in on this chat room and all the answers that’ve been thrown out in the last twenty four hours, the last two months, the last ten years, in our whole life times are answered, that change everything instantly.
So quickly, all the systems that’re still appearing to be out there, that’re appearing to be in control, that’re still part of that fiction, fall apart at the moment of Absolute Data. So go back and reread that Quantum Healing article again if you haven’t read it. There’s some Absolute Data information in there. That’s what everybody wants. Everybody wants the freedom that comes with that so, I just wanted to throw that in right now. I thought it was important to share.
Lisa: Thanks Brian. Thank you Zaruga.
Thomas: I’d like to weigh in on something if I may for a moment before you go to the next caller. Bob brought up a point earlier in the conversation about suffer, that we’ve all suffered. If you go back to the original meaning of the word suffer, it means to allow. I think in several ways because we’re not allowing any more. We’re not allowing them to do that; we’re not allowing these things to go on. Everybody keeps asking the question in the chat room ‘how do we access the Grid?’. I’m gonna give an answer that most people won’t like that are listening, but it’s factual and Heather may want to speak on this after I say it. The longest trip that you will ever take is from your head to your heart. Quit thinking all the time and start feeling. FEEL what’s out there. Feel it, feel it, feel it. If it feels right, go with it. Don’t worry about the truth of anything, go with how it feels. Look at it carefully.
Lisa: Okay guys, thank you very much Thomas. We’ve only got half an hour left, so those of you who are in the queue, I’m gonna ask you to please keep things short; keep it to your questions. We just don’t have time for philosophical discussions anymore. I’m asking everybody on the panel please keep their answers short and sweet too. We will move on to ‘where you at’. Where You At, are you there? Hello? It’s not an area code. I’ve actually just got Where You At. Nope? Okay, moving on. Area code 307…area code 307?
Caller: This is Sherry in Wyoming.   
Lisa: Hi Sherry.
Sherry: I have a question about who is Lisa M. Harrison? I find that she is part of the Divine Province Trust and also part of the OPPT. I’m confused about that, unless there’s a connection between the two? Could you help me with that?
Lisa: Well, I’m Lisa Harrison and there’s no connection between the two. Divine Province was something that came to my attention at the beginning of last year, which I thought from the standing point of the beginning of 2012 looked pretty good. I investigated it and became a part of it as in the sense of followed what was happening there, became a member and left that at the end of last year. I’m not a trustee of anything.
Sherry (caller): Okay. Well I just saw that, it appeared that you’re a deputy.
Lisa: No, I was offered a position or commission or whatever you wanna call it, but I declined it.
Sherry: Okay. ‘Cause you were listed there on that, so anyway I was confused at that so I’m glad to know that.
Lisa: If there’s still anything on the website, it shouldn’t be.
Sherry (caller): Okay, and it is. But that’s good, I’m glad to know that, because that was a confusing thing to me ‘cause I heard from you. I saw you with that and I thought ‘Oh dear’. (Garbled) I’m having a hard time grasping the CVACs in any way other than very literally. I’m thinking that’s what a lot of other people are having issues with too. It’s hard for me to step outside the box here.
Lisa: Do you know what CVAC stands for? Do you know what the letters stand for?
Sherry (caller): Yes.
Lisa: So looking at it from a spiritual perspective, we’ve got the Creator and the Creator’s value which is an asset. You are a center for that value; your BE’ing is a centre for that value, that asset of the Creator. You are an aspect of the Creator. To me, that’s all I can say on that because that’s what it is. Then there are the CVACs as a system that was discussed. On American Kabuki and on Removing The Shackles, you’ll find definitions that really do outline what these all are. A Creator’s Value Asset Center System is when two or more BE’ings, otherwise known as CVACs, come together with a mutual intent to create. It becomes a Center in and of itself, and those Centers would be connected to others forming a system. Does that make sense?
Sherry (caller): Yes.
Lisa: The same word is applied to different things.
Sherry (caller): So when they talk about distribution of that, what is that then? 
Lisa: Distribution of what?
Sherry (caller): The CVAC that they were talking about last night with the treasury and asset things set up.
Lisa: The treasury, if you have a look at the original CVAC documentation, what it had was there would be 194 CVACs representing each country. Around that main hub would be eight satellite CVACs dedicated to different areas that would fulfil and meet our needs in terms of health, education, transportation, technology and so forth. They would essentially be identical to one another with complete transparency and communicate with each other and it would be a network around the planet. The people, and they don’t exist without people giving them life, any more than a government is just a building unless people walk in the door. Heather, do you want to elaborate on this?
Sherry (caller): Excuse me?
Lisa: I was just asking Heather if she wanted to elaborate.
Heather: Yeah, I mean you did a great job. It’s just that those branches were initially just to have people have access to the same thing, like the library on a street corner having the same librarian data base as the libraries across the globe. It’s all about Absolute Data. Information and banking is currency. That is the currency. They use that information, that data, to maneuver people in places and make sure that they’re taking  and able to steal or barter or trade representation. Well, the people, if they have absolute data, access to that, and that’s what those systems on the ground were so that you knew where you could go and get Absolute Data…well it can just all be done from within. That’s where it was moving and that’s where the disclosure was coming in to assist a co-operation, but in a very transparent and honest way so that people would know it’s not how the powers-that-ere painted it. So, those systems, it can be whatever you want. I say just remove the distractions one by one. If there is a mistake that we make with each movement, we can correct it. So let’s start with the first big distraction which the powers-that-were made, are life and breath for all this time, which is value. So get the value out first and then everything else will be much easier to see in a different light.
Lisa: Does that answer your question Sherry?
Sherry (caller): Somewhat, yes. I’m just too new.
Lisa: Okay, go back and have a look and see. Read those definitions on American Kabuki or Removing The Shackles and that’ll help.
Sherry (caller): Thank you.
Lisa: Okay, thank you. Area code 970?
Caller: Oh good. Hellooo?
Lisa: Hi.
Caller: Hi, it’s Katie in Colorado.
Lisa: Ah, had a feeling. (Laughter)
Katie (caller): (Garbled) Okay. The only thing that keeps coming to my imagination is we type numbers into a computer, okay? Or (inaudible) that’s representing the value ‘cause I’m the value of my creation ‘cause I’m living and breathing and speaking, but what if we did like an (inaudible) craigslist or something? I don’t have the tech skills to do that or to orchestrate that whole massive computer operating system. I don’t know how to do that, but I’m just throwing the idea out there that because, essentially we have you, me…I’d be trading with you or bartering or sharing the system. It’d be a Pay It Forward system and so why not? Let’s just do it.
I don’t know who’s gonna do that, so whoever’s listening out there and feels that yes, this is me.. I don’t know, who knows what’s out there? Or who’s out there and who’s BE’ing out there, so if any of these ideas sparks an interest, like let’s just do it. Let’s just create a network for all of us and then be like ‘hey look you guys, hey I’m networking with these people’, but then again it’s, all you have to do is just put your name in. You can even put your YouTube name in or whatever, your handle. You don’t even have to use your real name, as long as it’s something that represents you as you and you know who you are…why not? What’s the hang up?
Brian: I love her, I love you (Laughter)
Katie (caller): I love you too Brian.
Brian: I think it’s a great idea. I think a lot of amazing ideas are gonna be coming out in the near future. I think that everybody’s gonna be free to co-create. I understand that there’s a lot of unanswered questions out there and that a lot of people are getting hung up on a lot of things, but answers are coming and where this is all headed, sooner or later we’re gonna look back and we’re gonna laugh hysterically. I do it every day. I giggle-fest hysterically every day.
Now on these calls, I haven’t done a lot of giggling on this one because I’m so tired, but we’re gonna look back at this and we’re gonna say ‘Oh my God I did it, thank you for this experience’ because it’s all about, at the end of the day it’s all about the experience. We’re all going through this experience and we’re creating this together and where we’re headed is a beautiful  place, it’s beautiful right now. It’s just hard for some people to enjoy it, because there’s so much suffering. I realize that’s still going on out there, but suffering is gonna come to an end. People just need to have faith and hold that space in their heart that this is all winding down. We’re coming to a very pivotal moment right now and just watch in awe as it unfolds.
Katie (caller): Yeah. Thanks all, I love you all.
Brian: Thank you. Love you.
Lisa: Okay, I know we’ve only got twenty minutes left. Heather, I’m being asked repeatedly in the chat room to please get you to clarify before this show finishes the when and the how of the treasury system.
Heather:  Okay. So I’ll go in and the only thing that’s gonna be secured will be the treasury part to get the value out.
Lisa: Yep.
Heather:  That’s it, so I’ve got to take that particular part out. Someone asked ‘Oh so is the USA going to be the only one that is in charge of it all since it’s the only branch that’s up?’.  No.  Let that branch, basically don’t have any branches, just have the CVAC temporary financial system, period.
Lisa: Now that’s funny, this is exactly a conversation I had over the week end and I said that I don’t think we need the 194 CVACs. I think we just need one, if anything.
Heather:  Well, people are at the point now where they’ve got the proof that all these corporations were operating under the guise of the people’s governments. So they can ask the questions now, so really back to school is unnecessary. As far as getting value out, you just need one source of that. Go in and file it and then make sure that it’s transparent and it can’t be messed with. It can’t be manipulated or fabricated or have someone stealing (inaudible) what (inaudible) are moving right in front of your nose.  So (inaudible) focus on just for that treasury.  Basically the 194 CVACs to go out (inaudible) then treasury can fall behind it. Now I can just scrap that middle part… go in, shut up the treasury, the temporary treasury, get all that value, all of the physical tangibles and then have people access that value. That’s it.
Lisa: So what’s…
Heather: That’s what I’m focused on.
Lisa: Okay. I hate to do it to you, but I need to ask you these couple of questions: time frame on how long that would take?
Heather:  For the actual securing the treasury system?  I’ll need this week to do that. The 194 was what we focused on last week. I’ll need this week to get the verbiage down, get it filed in and then after that it’s the next week…it usually takes me about three or four days to get the actual verbiage, pull it down from the Absolute Grid. It goes in the minute that it’s filed, it’s done. Then it’s a matter of the physical systems following. It’s all about energy, so the physical systems, once the energetic part is done, it takes usually about three (days)…seventy two hours for that to root and actually physically manifest somewhere.
Lisa: So the question, I know most people who are thinking along these lines, what they’re thinking is when do I get something in my hand that I can use? When do I get something that I can use to buy bread and put petrol in my car? Fulfill my dream, or be of service? Whatever their question is. And what is it gonna look like when it does?
Heather:  I can tell you what steps are going to be taken by me personally that I have control over. Then it’s a matter of putting the physical tangible behind that and I can tell you the timelines of those. As far as having coins to rub together, if that’s what they’re thinking it’s going to be, however they’re going to act as their value, I’m gonna get these first two steps in. Then I can give you an update, because if I give you a timeline and then we don’t reach that timeline, I’ve created an energetic event where energy is drawn down and then it’s crashed because everyone’s been trained to be fixed on a date.
I’m not gonna do that to everyone, but I will be responsible and tell you what I know. I can have that verbiage locked in, the verbiage is the security and the insurance behind the financial system. As far as the gold and silver and the precious metals, those will be physically moved in the next week. Then any representations or access devices for that representation or that value into that financial system? It could take another week to actually have that. I don’t know, it could be as quick as the twinkling of an eye, so let me move the (inaudible) pieces in place. My goal is the twinkling of an eye, so that the value would be accessible next week, but I want to make sure everyone is clear there’s an order here that needs to be done.
I’ll have the first part of the order done next week. The physical stuff actually moved into place the next week and possibly the access, it will be immediately thereafter. What does immediately mean? It could be the twinkling of an eye or it could be a week away from that particular moment. So if you guys can get some flexibility as far as expectations and I know there’s distractions.  I’m inspired and absolutely moved to make this happen tomorrow even. So those are the steps that I personally am taking responsibility for and DO’ing. Those two are the foundation in order for people to have coins to rub together or digital usb drive or a magnetic card to go and access that to buy bread and to take (inaudible) nd hopefully you won’t even need that.
Lisa:  Yeah, hopefully not, but do we need to collectively come together and make a decision on what that representation will look like? Or is it personal choice or…?
Heather: Start thinking about it, because some people are definitely dead on not having a digital system. I totally get that. With the work that I do in banking, everything is digital; easiest way to manipulate the data. I prefer magnetic; I prefer the energetic. That’s me personally. Can I operate with that? Can I use that? Can I manifest with that? Hell yeah.
Lisa: I thought it was also one of the easiest to manipulate as well, to hack.
Heather: Energetic?
Lisa: No no no. Magnetic.
Heather: When I’m talking magnetic, I mean magnetically drawing the energy to you; that’s what I mean by energetic/magnetic.
Lisa: Okay.
Heather: …is pulling down the energy, ‘cause you can only access whatever energy you pull. So I can’t access energy that Lisa pulls, not unless Lisa gives me consent to touch it, which is how the powers-that-were have operated their enslavement system. They just didn’t tell you what they were actually having pulled down or what the value really was. So for me, I access the Prime value but for others, they may want cheques. They may want magnetic cards. If that’s what you’re referring to about magnetic, you know..magnetic cards. They may want the usb sticks where they can transfer the data. They may wanna just have their phone converted into essentially a point of sale device where they can transfer and track. I’ve seen those. They’re pretty cool, but not something that I’d choose.
So everyone can just think about how, what system, what devices they want. When you have access to your value, it’s just a matter of going in like to your bank and saying ‘Hey bank, I want this product, this service to access my value and I want this convenience’. You dictate because you’re the only one that accesses the value in that particular scenario of bankers and client. We’ve just been told that bankers are God and you are less than, when in reality everyone is no lesser, no greater than anybody else. So start thinking about those concepts
Lisa: So are you, I just wanna be clear here, are you saying that once this system’s up, we can actually go to a bank of any description and say ‘this is my value, I want you to facilitate access to it.’
Heather: Okay, I’m gonna go back to when you brought up the bank the last time; this time I understand I brought it up. Okay? I was using that as an example. When you end up having access to your own value, you’re gonna determine who gets to play with you and under what terms, who gets to actually experience your value and  under what terms. If you wanna walk into a bank, great. Will Heather walk into a bank? No. After all that we’ve been through and all the energy spent to help the banks repurpose themselves, I don’t know. I think I’m gonna take a break, not walk into a bank.
Lisa: I just don’t think people can get their head around not having a bank as a facilitator.
Heather: Well you are the bank; that’s the point. The new system, the temporary system, will make it so that you are your own bank. You are the only one that can access it, transfer it, deliver it; you just are the bank. You’re not going to have a banker. Do you want to delegate your value over to someone else to hold on to you at this point?
Lisa: No:
Heather: After what we all just went through? Okay well, the new financial system should make it so that you don’t have to rely on anything external, shouldn’t it? It should make it so that you are the one that’s responsible. You are the one that gets to transfer it, move it around. So now, just go in tonight, consider, “Okay, I’m the bank. I’m going to be moving the value around how I choose and in the manner I choose, but it’s going to be something that will be acceptable and recognizable by someone else.”
Maybe you’ll come up with a whole new idea of a device for transfer if it’s not the actual prime value. Maybe you’ll come up with a whole new thing. Not a USB stick, not a magnetic card, not a check, a piece of paper. Maybe it’ll be something even different, who knows? But until you get access to that value, people are going to focus just on
the value and not what they can create with it. So does that answer your questions?
It may not be as satisfa…(garble) as you want. You may not have a deadline, a date. I’ve got to be honest with you though, if I sit and I give you a date and we don’t reach that date, we’ve created an energetic pull-down of energy. At that point, it creates confusion and it just sits there, because energy is supposed to flow, it never stops. So I would rather go in and tell you, these are the steps, the two things that need to be done. From there, it can be as quick as the speed of heart, or it can be as quick as the speed of DO’ing, or as quick as the speed of thought.
Lisa:  Access to the internet will allow. (chuckle)
Heather: Yeah, so, I just want to be clear on that. I want to create, and co-create, responsibly with you guys, so I hope that information is at least new data, and it’s something I stand behind.
Lisa: Okay. I hope so too. We do have a little bit of time left to take a couple of more calls. (cough) Excuse me. Area code 612.
Caller: Hello, it’s me Lisa. I just gotta tell you I love you so much. You’re such a good host on this show. Thank you.
Lisa: Aw, thank you! Is your name Lisa too?
Caller: No, it’s Elizabeth.
Lisa: Oh it’s Elizabeth, of course!
Elizabeth (caller): I wanted to tell Heather I had “The” question for her, but you just, she just answered it. So thank you Heather.
Heather: Oh thank you.
Elizabeth (caller): There’s so many inspirations tonight on the call and putting together last night’s call, it’s been so awesome, such a week! Such a week in these two days, oh my god. But I just want to go back to Heather’s first comment, what she said, “Choose. Do you want to choose the old system or do you want to choose something brand new?” So, you know that saying “You will receive the desires of your heart.” Our hearts are magnets, so to speak. So I just want to encourage everybody, even though we don’t know what we’re going to do, we don’t know what we’re going to create, and that’s the excitement of it, that makes it fun and that’s okay.
Just relax and starting tonight just desire… well you can desire if you want to stay in this old slave system blah, blah, blah. But I think I’ve learned my lesson all these centuries, of being in the slave system, I’ve grown as a spirit. You know we’re spirit, we’re physical flesh, and we have a soul. So my spirit man, we don’t even know how much we have grown, as a spirit man, until we come out of it. And we have grown a lot. So, you can desire the old system, slavery one, I’m not going to. I’m going to continue to desire the new paradigm, the new shift, the new system whatever that is. And remember it’s a paradigm shift. It’s a new way of being, a new way of thinking, a new way of doing things, a creative movement, individually and co-operatively. I believe we’ll still have this call, because we’re going to cooperate. We’re going to create awesome things. We can still use the Courtesy Notices still.
Lisa: Absolutely.
Elizabeth (caller): Yeah. So, I hear you laughing Brian.
Lisa: There’s still a lot individuals in the system that need to be educated.
Brian: I’m just wondering where the “standing ovation” emoticon is in the chat room.
(group laughter)
Brian: I can’t find one. (laughter)
Chris: Yep.
Elizabeth (caller): Oh you’re silly.
Lisa: Well thank you (several people talkover)
Elizabeth (caller): Okay, if there is actually 200,000 on this call or whatever, all around the world, if we just simply desire something new, the new way… even though we’re nervous about how it’s going to work out, just desire that new thing and desire to come out of this old thing, it’s going to happen. Boom, right Heather? And Brian and everybody?
Chris: Yep. Absolutely.
Brian: Absolutely.
Heather: That’s what I will stand behind. That’s what I’ll move my energy into.
Lisa: Those that will be listening to this call and participated in this show, members of the 3% we called ourselves throughout last year, we made that decision. We put out that vision. We did it weekly. I think that’s why we celebrated at the beginning of this year, when we heard about OPPT, Because it was like “We did it!”. We put that call out, it was crystal clear for us. So, thank you very much Elizabeth.
Elizabeth (caller): I just want to mention one more thing. Remember, March is a big, big energy month. March 28th, I’ll just say ‘i know that I know that I know.’ We’re going to be born into a brand new world. So, we’re going to be brand-spanking-new. I’ve been a mother of twins and another girl, when you give birth, it’s a little bit messy. I’m not saying war, killing or anything, it’s a little bit messy. But you know what? You look way beyond that, because it’s magnificent. It’s a wondrous beauty. It’s an awe thing. So anyway, love you guys.
(Lisa and Chris talking over each other)
Brian: We’ve got great energy in the chat room again, finally. Thank you chat room. I love you guys.
Lisa: Okay, area code 347?
Caller: 347, is that me? I sure hope so, because I’ve been sitting here listening to all these calls. I hope you guys know that this is the Prince Taylor from so many days ago, so many weeks ago, who was out in the cold. How you guys doing?
(All saying ‘Hey, Prince’)
Prince (caller): Hi, hello, greetings, salutations and all the like. Ladies and gentlemen, I, oh my gosh Heather as well. Listen, you guys don’t understand. You do understand. You’ve been talking about it all week. The roller coaster. I’ve been up and down. I’ve been in this surroundings of fear. All I see is fear around me. You see I tell people what’s happening and then they kind of come back at me like “Whoa, how are going to be telling me this? Because I don’t believe in that.” I’m like ‘Wait, what do you mean you don’t believe in your freedom? Can you let go of these dollars long enough to understand?” I always do it, the way that I always come down to it, is like this. You pull it from the 5D. I learned things that I already knew.
Lisa: Prince, sorry to interrupt you, but we’re about to lose everybody. Just stay there. If you’ve called in, you”ll be able to hear the call once we’ve gone over time. If you’re just listening at blogtalk, you ‘ll have to hear whatever comes after this on the archive. So, thank you all very much for joining us. If you’ve called in, stay with us. We love you all. Everybody in the chat room, you’ve done an amazing job today. I’ll leave it with that. Thank you and keep going Prince.
Prince (caller): Well, thank you everyone for listening. Peace, love and light. That’s the only way to break it down. Love is living one vibration everywhere. You have to be the change you want to see around you. You see something that you don’t like, you have to reach in that world and become it and pull it out. You see what I’m saying? You don’t like your dirty street, walk outside and clean it up. You understand me? That’s literally how we have to live. If it takes drudging through the system to wake up everyone, if that’s what you want it to be, if that’s how you want it to change, go ahead and do that. Because that’s your value. Your ability to reach into that 5th dimension and pull out what you want and place it into this 3rd dimension. That’s your power. That’s who you are. I mean, I’ve gone through these awakenings where they’re physical and spiritual, all at once. It’s only because of the (inaudible) of the mind. My mind was perceiving something at the time. So I was able to figure all these wonderful, new, outrageous things out by kind of putting together this puzzle that I’ve been continually, perpetually collecting my whole life. Now that I’ve gotten this (inaudible) peace, it literally magnetized them all together into the new, bigger picture. That’s what we want to have to pull, that puzzle that you’ve been putting together your whole life. But you couldn’t see around, because you didn’t see it. You have to want that. You have to imagine it. You have to walk into it. You have to bring it down. You see?
I’ve written lyrics in the 5D that I’m just now are realizing are 5D lyrics. I was walking down the street. I’m the OPPT New York City division. Understand me? Me and Grant, we are OPPT NYC. You understand me? We hold meet-ups every week. You understand me? Starting just with the first one last week. Now we’re going to do it for the second one this Friday in Times Square and we’re going to continue having them every week in probably different locations. Just to bring this energy to new parts of the world, to new parts of the city. You see what I’m talking about? Because of the way that it’s sparking in all of our hearts. Just on a normal, every day basis with synchronicity is the same way that I’m going to make it happen in my mind. Because that’s the way that it works in 5D. (phone ringing) That’s my mind. That’s where we live.
The last couple of days I said ‘I live in the area of pure potentiality’. That’s where I live, because I’m pulling all of these things down from that 5th dimension. I have no more questions. I was going to give them until Friday for this value assets to be in my hands and I said ‘wait a minute, it’s in my soul’. You see, it’s not in my…
Lisa: Ohh, whoo hoo. THAT was nice. (laughs)
Prince (caller): You see what I’m saying? It’s not something I can reach out and grab and push over there and hand to somebody else and say ‘hold that, that’s my value’. No. It’s inside of you; you have to work it, with your energies and how you interact with everything around you. That’s what Source is; it interacted with the things that it has. It created what it did with what it had; what it had was nothing but consciousness. A consciousness arose. Science and all these theories of what I understand are how I came about this understanding. So there may be conflicts in my explanation. You see? But it’s a 5D way of thinking. It’s just a symbol. It’s just something to put in place of the truth. Because we can only understand as far as our minds will allow us.
Thomas: Prince, can I ask you a question?
Prince (caller): Please.
Thomas: What you’re describing, would that coincide with what I was saying earlier about the longest trip you will ever take is from your head to your heart?
Prince (caller): That’s a lifetime journey. Some of us never reach it. That’s absolutely correct. Sometimes it’s the shortest trip, though, because we never lose that from birth. We lose it in life. You see what I’m sayin’? It’s not like we came from…I used to imagine when some people told me about coming from the great beyond into existence, we went down the chute. The movement through the chute made us forget. When we wake up, we’re a baby and we’re going ‘goo goo gaga’, because we don’t know nothing now. You see what I’m saying?
Thomas: (affirmative response)
Prince (caller): But really, we know everything. We’re just trying to learn how to communicate that to the outside world. What happens is the programming makes us forget.
Lisa: Prince, as a mum of three, I would say when we come into the world we still know exactly who we are. It’s those first seven years that can make or break that connection. From that point on, it’s a lifetime of trying to reconnect it.
Prince (caller): Yeah, I learned that a long time ago that it’s the childhood that damages a person, that leads into the deviance that are the things that we’re afraid of every day. It’s that childhood, something from high school and down. Sometimes it even happens a little bit into adulthood where we still have that in is, because it hasn’t been stolen from us. Bur you just get that innocence stolen. I’ve written lyrics about this. Just as I come back from…2010 I came back from college the first time and I wrote some lyrics around that time. I was writing lyrics forever. Starting this last five or six years, I’ve been writing some 5D lyrics. Even, oh my god!, I can’t even say just only that long. It’s been a long time coming. I’ve been doing music really since the turn of the millenium. You see what I’m saying? I came to New York in 1998. I can continue. You know what I’m saying? The synchronicity of these things and my awakening, it’s just magnificent. I hope everyone is still (inaudible), because I hear this. I hear this wind blowing in my ears; it’s kind of ominous right now. It’s crazy.
Lisa: Well thank you Prince for giving us this lovely note to end the show on. I apologize to everybody who’s still in the queue hoping to get their questions answered, but we’ve gone over time. It was a good show.
Prince (caller): I appreciate you all. Thank you so much for listening. (inaudible — talk over)
Brian: We love OPPT NYC, by the way.
Lisa: (laughs)
Prince (caller): Oh yes, OPPT is all of us. When you call in, you’re OPPT wherever you’re from. You see what I’m saying? That’s what it is. Once you become awakened, you’re OPPT wherever you’re from. That’s it. You come together every so often, whenever you can. That’s you. You guys move forward. Get together with your local grocery store. Start to help out everybody who’s hungry. Do what you can do. Do what you CAN do, because you can do anything.
Brian: Much love to you brother.
Prince (caller): Thank you guys. Peace and love to all.
Lisa: Thank you everybody. Thank you to everybody participating in the chat room; we do love you. Thank you to D, who was very quiet, but she’s in the background there. Bob, Chris, Thomas, Heather, Brian, thanks guys.

(All saying thank you and goodbye)



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Freedom Reigns/OPPT-IN

Monday, March 11th, 2013 (USA)
Tuesday, March 12th, 2013 (AEST)

Lisa: Oh, welcome everyone to this week’s OPPT-IN show. This is Lisa Harrison and (laughs) I don’t know what to tell you about today’s show. We are always winging it on these shows to some degree, especially since we got back on air at the beginning of this year because events have unfolded at such a speed. Things can change just before we go live, but I think that’s never been more true than today to be honest because the communications have been so scattered, especially with Heather over the last three or four days.


We’re going on bits and pieces and snippets of information to try and share with you. We did have Heather online about half an hour ago for ten or fifteen minutes and the connection was very bad. She kept dropping off. (inaudible for several words) and it’s stayed off so far. We’re going to do our best today to share with you what we can. Myself, Chris, Bob and Brian are all here with little bits of information that we can hopefully put together a big picture for you. So we’ll get started. I’d like to bring out Brian. Are you there, Brian?


Brian: Yes I am. Hello Lisa.


Lisa: Hello. Welcome. (inaudible)and Chris, are you there?


Chris: I’m here. I’m here and head’s spinning like the rest of you guys because, like Lisa just said, we’ve got a very interesting picture to paint, but it’s slightly a jigsaw puzzle at the moment. What we’ve decided to do is just tell you everything we know.


Lisa: Which is not a lot at some times, it feels like, but anyway. Bob, where are you?


Bob: I am here. I am here. Hello, Lisa. Hello everyone.


Lisa: Now before we more any further, I just want to say to everyone please go to freedom to get into the chat room. That one does hold an awful lot more people than the one at blogtalk and Deatra would prefer that we went there (inaudible), as it’s a better indication of how many of you are joining in on these calls as well. So please go to and click on the chat link.


So we are continuing to try (inaudible) as always bringing Heather on the call. If she comes on, she comes on. But where do we start? We’ve been talking and we’re certainly feeling the energy; people are feeling the energy. There’s been some interesting, very interesting articles, pieces of data come online in the last 24 hours that we’ve all taken note of. There is one that we want to bring your attention to in particular, which originally was posted on a website called Quantum Odyssey. It’s also been reposted at I won’t give you the Quantum Odyssey address simply because it’s far too long, but if you go to, it’s titled The Next Great Event in the Awakening if you’d like to read it. It’s a fascinating piece of information. Brian, you want to elaborate on it?


Brian: Yeah, I guess so. This particular article got shared with me by (inaudible) last night, as we were Skypeing and…


Lisa: It sounds like you’re moving away from the microphone, darlin’, we can’t quite hear you.


Brian: Okay, can you hear me now?


Lisa: Yes.


Brian: Okay. Yeah, it got shared with me last night. I had one of those reactions to it, similar to the one when we read the document talking about the end of duality that got put together. It was a trigger. Looks like somebody’s trying to….maybe we’ll get Heather, do you guys get that beeping or no?


Lisa: It’s actually Deva. No it’s D. Hey, D.


D: Hi guys. I am muting out because I have screaming children all over the place.


Lisa: (inaudible)


Chris: Appreciated.




Brian: Hi D, you don’t have to respond. I know you’re muted. Back to what I was saying, reading it, it was a really big trigger for me. It triggered some emotions. It triggered some dreams that I had that were very similar to what was described in this particular article. Once everybody read it that was in this particular Skype room, everybody all agreed. This morning when we woke up we…Heather, considering she’s in Africa, she types a lot of stuff through the night and then we read it in the morning. Some of her comments that she had to weigh in on this particular article essentially were such that she agreed with almost every component except one of the lines that’s based in somewhat of a limited perspective in the 3D, 4D, 5D use of terminology. She has been saying and we’ve all been saying that it’s a reconciliation to the Absolute and that the hierarchy is part of the illusion and so was a confirmation for me.


I knew when I read it that this particular event is something I know a lot of people have been not only waiting for, but readying themselves for at a much deeper level of awareness and a much deeper level of consciousness to be a part of whatever and however this whole thing unfolds. What it’s saying is March of 2013 is going to be the month which has been…..also what I’ve been told is that the Hopis through Drunvalo Melchizedek have been saying the same thing. There’s a few other groups that have also been saying the same thing and as much as I don’t like to get caught up, and I said this last night, I really don’t want to get caught up in holding on the some date or some attachment or expectation to some linear time goal of when this will all unfold. I know we usually keep a lot of this stuff reserved for the Collective Imagination show, but considering where we are and how quickly this is all unfolding, it sounds like it made a whole lot of sense for the merging of the two concepts to go together, because there’s a very multidimensional aspect to everything that’s happening right now. So, before I went on to my radio show that I did this morning, which is the (inaudible)….


Chris:  Brian, could I interrupt for just a moment…Brian?


Brian:  Yes, go for it.


Chris:  Are you walking around the room?


Brian:  Can you hear me walking?


Lisa:  We can hear you moving away from the microphone…come closer to the microphone. But we’ve actually got Caleb with us. Caleb, can you hear me?


Caleb:  Yes, yes I can, how are you?


(talk over)


Chris:  Brian just stay near the microphone. It’s the one on the computer that’s working, so stay near it.


Brian:  Oh, okay, well I’ve the one on my head that I’ve been talking into all day, but I’ll sit at my computer.  So (laughs) anyways, I asked Heather in regards to going on the show, because when you hear there’s going to be a lot of listeners and if she could shed some light on whether or not it was a good idea to speak to this particular article. Some of the things I shared and she told me of course to follow my inner guidance, which I saw that one coming a mile away. I made the decision that referencing to it and pointing people to go and read it was a good idea.


She also shared a message that she wrote on Skype, which I’ll read here. Then if anybody has any follow-up question with Caleb, because she talks about a meeting with Caleb and Randal on this comment.  She says “just met Caleb and Randal today, commercial registry is closed, all value returned and OPPT satisfied it’s purpose and all creations trusts are satisfied, no longer needed, purpose was to guard, protect and empower BE’ing and DO’ and return the value” and in capitols ‘TODAY IT IS ALL DONE’.   


Lisa:  Okay Caleb, maybe you can elaborate?


Caleb:  Yeah, well..


(talk over)


Lisa:  (laughs)  What’s going on?


Caleb:  So the CVAC as a construct has never set well with me, because I’m a believer that the problem is solved when the individual rises up and solves it. If you want to learn how to play the piano, I can’t do that for you; you have to learn it yourself.  So, the CVAC was always supposed to be a construct or an interface between the people and the powers-that-were on their way out the door. (inaudible) of it is, each individual is the value. They are here the values are stored. That’s what the powers-that-were were vampiring off of through all of their paper. So, the Public Trust held the space to speak in the language of the powers-that-were. 


Now that it’s been spoken and it’s not been refuted, there’s no point for it to be there anymore.  I’ve been in a hurry to tear down The Peoples Trust for a long time.  I do not like any sort of structured power anywhere, because it doesn’t need to exist…ever. It never did and it doesn’t need to now.  So The Public Trust has served it’s purpose. People have the ability to stand; they just have to choose to.  Everyone can be a genius piano player. They might not want to set on a hard wooden bench for ten years, but you can do it if you want. Muggsy Bogues is 5’ 4” and he manages to play professional basketball.  It really boils down to what you really want to do with your energy and your intent.  So…


Lisa: So, people can get their head around the idea that The Peoples Trust has done what it set out to do, when nothing in there…they don’t see anything in their lives changed.  How can you say it’s served it’s purpose? That’s what they‘re going to…that’s going to be the comeback.


Caleb: I don’t know. I just saw somebody float something around our chat room saying that 685 heads of large corporations and states have all resigned. So tell me when that happened in the last 40 years.


Lisa:  Yeah, wow.


Caleb:  In some point in time, if you want to be spoon fed….and I’m not trying to be an ass when I say this…but if you want to be spoon fed then go find a different master. I don’t know what to say.  I’m not kidding. At some point in time you have to take control of your own existence. We have spoke to the existing construct in their language and told them that they don’t have the right to my labor and they agreed. So it’s done.


(talk over)


Lisa: Where do we go from here?


Caleb:  Well, start to conduct your affairs accordingly.  Everyone has been saying that this is a play and that there were actors on the stage; so stop acting.  I keep seeing all these write-ups go out that I have had nothing to do with; none of the trustees had anything to do with. I talk about (inaudible) something, because they’re refusing to participate. So if everyone refuses to participate, that is your solution. It’s kind of like when the peasants during the Black Plague told the lords, ‘you got to pay us now’ and they all stood up and did it. (inaudible) that’s the way it was. (inaudible) the hundredth monkey syndrome. So at some point in time people have got to say we’ve had enough and then there’s your change. Otherwise you’re asking for another emperor to rise up.


(talk over)


Lisa:  Sorry, there was a comment in one of the chat rooms you guys had done some intensive data exchange (chuckles).


Caleb: Argument (inaudible – talk over).


(both Lisa and Caleb laugh)


Lisa:  So, is that what you’re talking about now, that this is what came out of that?


Caleb:  No, that was a different argument. I mean discussion…intense discussion.


Lisa:  (laughing)


Caleb: (laughs) That intense discussion had to do with labor exchanges. Heather is saying that in the very short future, you’ll tap into a new construct and download whatever you need. Then there’s no point for labor exchanges, because it won’t take 10 years to learn to play the piano. Go ask the universe for it and it will give that to you.


Brian: Yes.


Lisa:  And your side of the story is?


Caleb:  Well, I can tell when I’m playing Bach versus when I’m channeling Bach versus when I’m channeling the energy that Bach was inspired by. So the real question is, am I willing to set down my pride as a person, as a human and let that energy flow through me?  Because to do that I have to put aside my own nature, and I can’t say I and I can’t say how great I am, because something else is motivating me. I just think I’m a vessel.  So, are we willing as a people to do that?  It’s an interesting question. But I know it’s real. You could probably tell in the recording who I’m channeling or who I am participating with at that point in time, if it’s me or if it’s Bach or if it is the energy that he brings forth or brought forth from.


(talk over)


Brian:  Go ahead Lisa.


Lisa:  No, go ahead. 


Brian:  I was gonna say cos there’s so many layers to all of this.  Right now, what’s going on is there’s a lot of people trying to decipher what’s going on based on their senses (garbled). 

Caleb:  Correct.

Brian:  Yeah, correct. Then you have all of those layers that are, I don’t want to say more important, because they’re just additional layers. It’s more data; it’s more energy.  It’s additional pieces to the puzzle. So you have a lot of these things that are happening behind the scenes.  People, just because they can’t see it or hear it, know that there’s a lot of people out there who feel it. They’re looking for answers based on things they can see and hear. 

Caleb:  Right.

Brian:  These conversations that we’ve been having that everybody listens to for the last two months now have evolved so fast and gained so much new perspective that people are realizing that…at least I hope some are realizing that, based on what I’m told and what I’ve heard…is that sooner or later, because what everybody wants to know now and this is the burning question, “Is when do I get access to this value, to these systems that allow me access to my own value?”

Caleb:  You already have access, right?

Brian:  Yeah, I realize that, but that’s the thing. That’s the point that people are really coming to grips with is when they realize that in a state of pure potentiality, with infinite possibilities at our fingertips, we’re coming to a place where you’re not gonna need the money. The illusion that has been created to get the things that we want, or the things that we need or basic needs met in our life; that we have the ability to create that.  So you know, one of the things… to throw this out there…as we were preparing for this call, we were hoping that Heather could get online because I know that she has some insight to share as to some of the things that I shared on my call this morning and that the people were looking forward to. You may or may not be able to add some light as to what that means right now as far as the UCC being dismantled is what it sounds like.  What that means in the way of the CVAC filings and how that affects the people and their ability to access.

Caleb:  I’ve been maintaining for a long time that the UCC is irrelevant. The reason it’s irrelevant is because when the founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, what did they do?  They took a pen and a sheet of paper and wrote words down and they weren’t refuted.  The knights of the Lord took the king into the field and said “You behave or we’re going to chop your head off!” and they signed the Magna Carta; they spoke to him in a language that he understood.  Now let me speak this and everyone listen, “My name is Caleb Paul of the House of Skinner.  My labour belongs to me.  It is mine.  I will do with it as I please.”  Now, I have just made my statement, does anybody care to refute it?

Lisa:  No. 

Caleb:  Perfect!  Now, why do we need the UCC?

Brian:  We don’t.

Lisa:  We’re just in a situation where on last week’s call two things happened. One, it was announced that the CVACs would be up online within a week and then the following week, the treasury system would be online.

Caleb:  Okay.

Lisa:  That’s one of the things that happened.  The other thing that happened, that we had a discussion around and a realization that if everybody in the world, even though logistically it may not be possible, but if everybody in the world came online and had access to their value in the same day.

Caleb:  Ah ha.

Lisa:  That it would be immediately followed the following day by it being completely unnecessary.

Caleb:  Well, right.


Lisa:  Now what we’re looking at though, is based on the current structure, that we can’t skip that step.  We sort of need to go through that physical step of having access to value, before we can get to the point that, just based on where we’re at mentally, emotionally and spiritually and the fact that there are still remnants of the current… the old structure.  If there were no remnants of the old structure, we could probably skip that step.  If something happened to switch us all on, in the same way, at the same time, we could also skip that step.  Now either, so that’s what the people who tuned into this were looking at.  That’s what was announced last week.  In the meantime, what seems to have happened is the UCC itself has been dismantled.  So therefore filings of the CVACs, I don’t know where that leaves that. They’re unclear about that step of access to value.

Caleb:  (Garbled)…the people that stole your value and betrayed you.  Okay, if I steal your car and put it in my garage, what are you gonna do?  You’re gonna come to my house, beat on my door and tell me to give it back. If I don’t, you’ll show up with three of your friends and take it, cause it’s yours.  So if someone has your value and you want it back, you’ll get it. 

Lisa:  I’m playing devil’s advocate here Caleb, so give me a minute.

Caleb:  Here’s the problem that I run into, right? That is you’re absolutely right. If we all go give everybody some ‘X’ amount of value, it’s not going to matter anyway.  Your gold would be worthless, you can sit on a giant pile of it and you (garbled) on it. About three days later you’re gonna be dead, because you can’t eat it or drink it, so it really doesn’t matter.  It represents a stolen contract. If you want to go get it, it’s fine. I don’t really care, but as far as me and my house it’s irrelevant, I’ve moved beyond it.  Because if I gotta do that, I’ve gotta give it to everyone and if I give it to everyone then it has no value.  It’s not technically inflation, but it might as well be.  So what’s the point of expending that energy?  Like someone out there listening to us on some call said, “Let the rich people, whoever they are, take all their gold and run off to an island some place.”  Perfect!  That way we all know where they’re at. We can put a fence around that island and they can sit on all their gold.  Perfect!  It doesn’t really matter. 

Brian:  So Caleb, I’ve got a follow-up question in that regard. I see where you’re coming from, I really do, but considering that’s your position, there’s people out there in the world right now that don’t have the ability to go out. I’m talking about starting with history that they were born into that they don’t have the ability to rally a crew and go knocking down the door of the bank or the Federal Reserve to get the value that’s been stolen from them. They’re hungry; they’re starving. They’re dying by no fault of their own. There’s absolutely nothing that they can do about it, except continue down the road that leads to imminent death and starvation. 


So it’s these people that everybody is worried about. It’s these people that want to see this system that gets put into place that gives them some type of ability to go out and save their own, as well as their family’s, lives.  What do these people do?  So when Heather came on and she said last week that the CVAC systems are gonna be done by this week. Next week there’s gonna be systems that will be put in place that gives people access to that value. It’s possible that we can have a debit card, or some kind of thumb drive, that gives people access to this value. It gave everybody a lot of hope that their prayers had been answered and there’s gonna be systems put in place for those that cannot help themselves. 

Caleb:  Sure.


Brian:  It’s these people that everybody is right now wanting to stand up for. Because me, I have a roof over my head, I’ve got food in my fridge and I got electricity to keep me warm and a car to drive me around. 

Caleb:  Perfect.

Brian:  So if you can speak to that. It’s just that there’s a lot of unanswered questions based on the comment, the feedback that you just gave, which is that it doesn’t really corroborate with information that was shared from last week.

Caleb:  Well, first of all I can’t speak for Heather.  That’s Heather’s position.  My position is the CVACs were never needed, because it’s ultimately the people’s choice as to how they want to live. So for example…

Lisa:  I agree with you CVACs aren’t, but it’s the access to value that is.

Caleb:  Yeah, so for example, some court in Canada just said the Church was guilty of these criminal acts, right? 

Brian:  That was the ITCCS.

Caleb:  So why don’t 1000 people get together, appoint a sheriff and liquidate a church?

Lisa:  We’re just saying that’s in complete opposition to what was said last week.

Caleb:  Again, I don’t know what was said last week. I don’t speak for Heather. What I’m telling you is you guys are asking for solutions and I just gave you one. If the people are truly in control, then act like it.  So if we’re worried about starving people in Mexico working in garbage dumps, let’s go down there. They’re the people. There’s more gold in Mexico than there was gold in Fort Knox. That’s before we knew, because of all the cathedrals, and that’s before we knew that all the gold in Fort Knox was wrapped up in tungsten.  So, go down there and grab a church and take the gold out of it; sell it and feed the poor.

Brian:  When can you be here my man and we’ll leave right now?


Caleb:  Whenever.  Who in Mexico’s in charge?  Where’s our command structure?  They have to stand up for themselves.  If I have to, I’ll be really blunt with you people. If I have to do this, I’m gonna build an empire.  Cos why should I do it for free?  Why should I take my labour and do all of this for free? My part was playing the role that I played. I’m happy to have done that, but at some point in time everyone else has to stand too.  I’m not trying to be an ass, but I was threatened with death and I stood.  So, if I had to get death threats and be told by agents that I was gonna get shot by the police, where is everyone else? 


Lisa:  Hang on Caleb. It just sounds like the OPPT has done a 180 turn from last week; that’s what people are hearing.  That now there’s not going to be CVACs and now there’s not going to be access to value system.  Is that what you’re saying?

Caleb: People can create whatever they want.  What would the people like?

Lisa:  No people can’t create whatever they want in a sense, because not everybody has your talents for example in code writing and can create a system that would give everybody access to value.  I’m looking at the chat room, mate, and I’m seeing everyone going “What?”  Everyone thought they were going to put out today that CVACs were online.  Everyone thought they were going to find out today that systems to access, security systems, are only a couple of days away.

Caleb:  Sure.

Lisa:  Now it sounds like you’re saying “Hey, if you want it, go out and knock doors down.” 

Caleb:  That’s what I’d do. I’m saying I’ve never liked CVACs, so if Heather said something last week you’d have to ask Heather about that. What I’m saying is that I do not want any structure put in place that can stand between the people and whoever they are. So if your value’s been stolen from you and everyone’s across this land, meaning the entire world, has had their value stolen from them, then they have one of two choices. You can move forward, right? You can just say, “Okay, it is what it is” and move on; or you can go get your value. You can go knock down the doors of the cathedral and take the gold.

Lisa:  Yeah, but it sounds like you’re trying to incite a revolution that would turn to violence, which is not the answer for anybody.  No one wants that. 

Caleb: Well no-one wants that, but then maybe the people who have your stuff should stand down.  You have options here, right?  You can move forward and say, “You come to my door, I’m gonna challenge your contract and call it good”, which is what the Courtesy Notice does.  Or you can say, “Well, you know you kind of ripped me off and I want my value back”. 

Lisa:  Has anything moved forward in terms of the access to value systems? 

Caleb:  You’d have to ask Heather that. We didn’t talk about that. I only talk with Heather about things that I’m concerned with and the CVACs do not resonate with me.

Brian:  So that’s a really important point to make right there, Lisa, is that Heather and Caleb and Randall, they’ve always talked out in the open, totally transparent, that each had a role to play.  The reason why they’re able to get such great work done is because they all brought such different and valuable and resourceful talents and viewpoints to the table that allowed them to get what they needed to get done done.  Heather’s not completely involved with everything that Caleb’s doing just as Caleb’s not involved with absolutely everything that Heather’s doing.


So in order to be able to balance out and provide all the perspectives from the trustees, Heather would have to come on and speak for herself and what she has done. When she made the statements that she made last week and where they are this week, Caleb is not prepared to answer that question, because Caleb hasn’t been involved with what’s been going from all last week.  Is that pretty accurate Caleb?

Caleb:  Yeah, I can only tell you what resonates for me and how I’m conducting my affairs. I’ve been itching to disband the trust and bail on the UCC for some time now.  I see them as constructs that people put in the way to their freedom and they don’t need to. 

Lisa:  Yeah, it was clear a week or so ago that the UCC was only holding the space for a time, that it too would go. 

Caleb:  Right.

Lisa:  At the moment, it’s just holding the space for a place to file the necessary contracts or documents that needed to be filed in order to talk to the old system.  Our conversation about them is it’s no longer needed.

Caleb:  Right, I see the UCC as purely a registration system, right? It’s just a place where you go and you put some information and I’m gonna look at the central repository of information.  If there’s something there fantastic and if there’s not, then you move forward.  But like I said earlier, it’s my energy and whether it’s filed on the UCC or in the Wall Street Journal, or written on a stone tablet stuck somewhere on a mountain, it’s all the same.  I mean it really comes down to this, it’s your existence, what are you going to do with it?  It’s really just that simple.


Brian:  If we loop this back around to where this whole dialogue started, in regards to things that are unfolding behind the scenes that are paving ways to new realities and a new way of living, you’ll start to realize that so much of this discussion and past discussions have the ability to deem themselves as completely irrelevant.  Because there’s a possibility that the UCC, the CVAC and to quote Caleb, “Don’t really matter anymore, it just doesn’t matter”.  The UCC served its purpose.  The One People’s Public Trust served its purpose. 

Caleb:  Right, right.

Brian:  Whether that purpose has been made completely visible or not yet is the only element that’s left out there that people have yet to determine or see for themselves to have what they need in order for them to be able to understand everything that’s been done. Because they can’t necessarily see it with their eyes or hear it with their ears.  But based on the conversations that we have had with Heather this morning and yesterday, we’re kind of at a precipice here where all of that proof and visibility is to a time where it’s gonna be exposed for everybody to see and decide what resonates within them and what they will do with that data and information.

Caleb:  Right.  They have to decide how they’re gonna conduct their affairs and how they’re gonna live their life.  I can’t make that decision for anyone, okay? All I can do is stand in the space, hold the space to say, “This is right or this is wrong”.  That’s what we did.  I can’t live for anyone (garbled) if you’re gonna let him then he’s gonna win.  It’s the way it works. It’s not right, but it’s how it works.  If you do a study of history, you’ll find that the bully always comes up and he invokes some sort of pre-existing construct that people buy into.  It’s religion or divine right teams. I’m the son of Pharoah. I had a dream.  My ship sailed across the sea and yours didn’t.


Somehow they create these differentiators that then allow them to exert some sort of superior position. People just go along with it and they don’t challenge it.  So this whole thing is about “No!  I’m not gonna go along with it, I’m gonna challenge it.  Who are you?  Who are you to speak for me?  Did I give you permission to speak for me?”  The answer is always no. There is no contract. There’s no accommodation party agreement. It’s just I’m going to cower over here. In some cases it’s like my dad, bless his heart before he passed on, just admitted it was easier not to do anything, so he didn’t.  Until some point in time this turns into “No, I’m going to do something.”

Chris: Caleb, Chris here, how are you?


Caleb: Good, very good.


Chris: Good, good. Caleb, you haven’t had any discussions with Heather about what she was planning to talk about on the show today?


Caleb: No.


Chris: Okay. Well, Brian, what I suggest we do…because Caleb, a number of us have had discussions with Heather. We’ve all got bits and pieces to talk about, so probably what we should do is try and pass on Heather’s message. Thank you for the space that you hold, because obviously as a trustee that has been your role to identify that space and stand in it and let no one pass through it. I think guys what we will do is starting with Brian, gather the bits and pieces that Heather asked us to put out and have that part of the conversation.


Brian: Okay, perfect.


Chris: What I’m trying to say is, Caleb thank you for coming and putting that position forward, because ultimately we still have to take action, each individual.


Bob: This is what I see, everyone. From the beginning of all of this, it’s really been a transformational journey for everybody. Everybody is in a completely different place than they were two months ago. Otherwise you just haven’t been following along, because so much has changed, the world scene has changed. But up until this point right now, everything that we’ve done and we’ve accomplished, who did it? We did, all of us, every every single person that had contributed to putting up a site or contributed to putting up information, making articles, making music. Who did it? We all did, all of us and all of us are demonstrating that we are ready to do whatever needs to be done in order to move forward.


But in the consideration and Caleb, I understand what you’re saying, because that’s where you are, but not everyone is in that space. Not everyone is in that space and not everyone can move into that space very quickly. Some people are going to remain (inaudible). For a lot of us, we look at our friends and our families, the ones that we love and we care about, that are still sleeping, how we can help them? We collectively decide how we wish to move forward. What resonates with you? What’s an easy way to move forward?


The CVAC is a good idea, I believe, when you consider the whole picture. Individually other people may not need it, like for instance I don’t need a UCC filing. I can speak to a police officer and stand my ground without even mentioning the UCC filings, because I know who I am. Not everyone can do that and not everyone feels comfortable doing that; which is why the UCC filings are there, to provide a space for you to find your legs, so to speak. I believe that as long as we need, or others will need that, there will always be that space there to provide the confidence that you need in order to move forward. There will always be that assistance there, but we are that assistance. Now I believe that all these systems have already been created and all the technology is there. I believe collectively we’ve all decided how we wish to move forward. Individually that may be different choices for certain individuals and that is fine. But collectively the world needs to move forward to a better place.


Lisa: I get that The Peoples Trust was a tool and a bridge.


Bob: Yes.


Lisa: We have been using it very, very well, I think.


Bob: I don’t think we should abandon it.


Lisa: Of course not.


Bob:  Follow what’s working, because honestly and I’m just going to speak for myself, the energy in this conversation sucks. The energy of this conversation…nothing against you Caleb. I appreciate you holding the contrast, but I’m going to have to disagree with you buddy. I believe that the CVAC system is necessary as a collective movement, not individually, and everybody is going to go at their own pace. But there has to be a way; there has to be a path provided that they can walk. We are the ones that are moving; taking the lead saying, “hey, I remember who I am and I am awake”.  It’s our collective decision to help our brothers and sisters. Can I get an AMEN?


(Everyone expressing Amen and giggles)


Caleb: Hey Bob, I think that’s fantastic. I think it’s perfect, but the CVAC’s don’t need to come from me. They need to come from you.


Bob: Exactly.


Lisa: They are and they will. They’re coming from the people. People are already coming together in collectives and getting themselves together and networking with people, to form communities of people who have the same goals; that is already happening. Now whether you call that a CVAC and how you choose to formalize it, if you choose to formalize it, whether it’s with documents that are (inaudible) UCC (inaudible) or if it’s with some other means is irrelevant. The concept is already happening and it’s happening with the people; they are doing it. (inaudible) They are already coming together.


Chris: The aspect of the conversation that I want to move to is simply this, since December 25th Heather’s been educating us as to the situation that had already occurred. Now the idea of dropping the UCC and dropping the OPPT could have happened instantly, because it had done its  job, but problem is you’ve got seven billion people on the planet who aren’t in the same place as Caleb. They’re certainly not in the same place as Brian and Lisa and myself and most of the people listening to this call. So the work of that tool is not yet over. We’ve still got a lot of people to actually move to that place so then we can move forward.


I agree with Bob, CVAC’s are the exact tool that we need. I don’t want to drop that concept at all; I want that to go ahead. The access to value is another part of that tool. These are tools that we’ve been given to clear out the old system and start something new. Caleb, as a person, I completely recognize that you (inaudible) probably do it a different way. You stated that very clearly, but I think for the rest of us, the tool set that we are presented with is something that we can get our heads around and work with. So don’t want to cut you off to (inaudible), I think we need to move on with the connotation that we (inaudible) were going to have today.


Lisa: I want to thank you Caleb (inaudible) what you just did (laughing) was a great gift.  Everybody (inaudible) of really getting down deep and asking themselves how they wish to unfold and (inaudible).


Caleb: That is precisely what needs to happen, because I’m not going to do it. Heather shouldn’t have to do it. People should band together and decide how they want to be governed. And however they want to be governed is how they should move forward.


Lisa: They don’t want to be governed; they want to self govern.


Caleb: Right, but even in the concept of self-governance, if they want a CVAC, they’re saying we want some sort of structure. Which is great, there is nothing wrong with that, but they should be the ones…


Lisa: It’s a structure that holds; it’s not a structure that governs. It’s a structure that creates the space for service as opposed to governance. And that’s okay.


Caleb: Fine, but they have to be the ones that come up with it.


Lisa/Brian: Yeah.


Caleb: They do, not me, because that puts me in an authoritarian position and I don’t want to be there. I want nothing to do with the story; I want to get as far away from it as possible.


Lisa: I don’t think that anybody…at least I didn’t. I don’t think anybody that we have shared the CVAC concept with has seen it as a system of authority, because that was very clearly not a part of it; very clear to me. It was a flat (inaudible); no hierarchy involved.


Caleb: We definitely don’t need trustees doing it. Let’s disband all these things of power as soon as we can.



Chris: We still need that tool and the bridge to get to that point.



Caleb: Sure.



Chris: That is the point of this conversation.



Caleb: Yes.



Chris: That the OPPT and the CVAC concept is a tool. The thing I liked about the CVAC structure is it’s simply a framework, set up with the possibility of a very short term contract, so that you can resolve issues and turn over and introduce new concepts very quickly. And change to something completely different if we want to. It’s up to us where we take it from here. So I’m (inaudible) behind that particular spectrum and I want to push that forward.


Again, as Lisa said, thanks Caleb, because the smack up the side of the head…the fact that one of the discussions we’ve had in the last week…when you start to realize you don’t…(inaudible) the paper, you simply realize all that needed to happen was for everyone to stand up and say I AM. The game is over and the argument is done and we move forward. But as I said before, there are seven billion people who aren’t ready to stand up yet.


Caleb: I’m not saying that you’re wrong. I just knew that I don’t want to be a part of that. Because it creates…like I’m tired of pyramids of authority. I don’t want to be part of one.


Chris: None of us want to ever be part of one again a hierarchy; no thanks. A hierarchy is corruption. You can’t have a hierarchy that isn’t corrupt; doesn’t work.


Caleb: I want to run as far away from that as I can, as fast as I can. So I will conduct my affairs accordingly. The last thing I want is people looking to me on guidance for a CVAC; like No, No, No, No, No, No. You have to figure that out on your own.


Chris: So Caleb, we won’t bother you then.


Brian: (chuckle) So we got to remember (inaudible) foundation of the whole CVAC concept to begin with, which is unobstructed freedom to DO and BE and co-create as we choose and please, so long as it does not harm another. So, how everybody from an individual place of total freedom of creation has to decide how that looks for them. I default back to a statement that David made in the chat room the other day that made a lot of sense for everybody that was in there at the time, which we can’t possibly comprehend from our existing state, our existing level of consciousness, what the future holds in a heightened frame of elevated vibration and elevated consciousness. What we’re doing now is that we’re trying to pick it apart, of how it’s going to look and how it’s going to feel based on a very limited perspective.


We all kind of said it. It has accomplished a lot to allow everybody the understanding and the realization that every one individual has their right to their opinion and their perspective and what they want to DO and who they want to BE. Caleb has his; I have mine. Chris and Lisa and Bob have theirs and everybody listening to the call has theirs. So where we go from here is up to us. What people want to see now is they want to see the construct of these slavery systems become unwound once and for all, to where it’s visible. They don’t want to have to file a Courtesy Notice anymore. They don’t want to have to file a UCC document anymore. They don’t want to have to stand up and fight for their freedoms anymore. They want these last gasps of these slavery systems that still appear to be in place to not have any visibility and no longer be an element to this particular equation.


So nothing that’s been said on this call has stopped the momentum of leading in that direction. If anything, it has reinforced that that’s where we are headed. So Caleb, I appreciate what you have had to share, because everybody shouldn’t do anything that I’m telling them or that you’re telling them. None of us on this panel are up here giving people any type of position of authority. Trust me, I don’t want that either. People send me emails to my opptcreativity@gmail account with ideas that they’re looking for approval on for CVAC structures. I’m like, No, No, No, No, No, every time I get one of those because it takes away the whole point. Your CVAC is your value of what you want to do; to create whatever vision it is that you have: healing center, farm.


I’ve seen so many amazing ideas. Start to foster those and develop them as if you have the resources available to you to make them a reality. Because those resources, people are looking for them as dollars in a bank or gold in a vault. But that value that you need to create that which you dream of creating is inside of you right now just waiting to be unlocked to where you realize the true power that you hold within yourself. Because we are the goods and we are the services and we are the value and we have the ability to trade with one another to put into the system and take out from the system what we need and what we choose to offer.


Those people that sit around not contributing any value to the system…I can’t say what (inaudible) more than anybody else can make predictions based on our limited state of consciousness. But what I do know is that if you take this back to the, lets say the Aboriginal Tribes in the Outback of Australia. Talked about this the other day. If you have that hunter that killed that Buffalo and he got that meat and he goes into town because he needs a blanket to stay warm. That guy that made that blanket, he might need that buffalo. But if the guy said, “wait a second, I’m not going to give you any of my buffalo, but I still want your blanket”. The guy with the blanket is going to say, “wait a second, I’m hungry, that’s not fair”. So I don’t know exactly how that’s going to look. But what I do know is that guy with the blanket is going to be a lot more likely to give up his blanket if the guy with the buffalo says “I’m going to give you some of this buffalo for that blanket”. Now you have an exchange of energy that takes place that can create a harmony to where everybody wins.


Lisa: Brian, I don’t know what you’re talking about. (laughing) We don’t have buffalo in Australia, but that’s beside the point.


Brian: (hearty laughing) … kangaroo!


Lisa: (laughing) Okay, I’ve been sitting here in the background, so I could quietly try to absorb what’s going on here today. I think this is absolutely necessary, because there’s been a lot of people unsure. There’s been a lot of people giving OPPT their power. There’s been people, oh God, there’s a whole wide range of responses to this. There are people who really, really get it and understand that it is a tool.


I think Caleb’s contribution and his energy has certainly kicked a few people the wrong way. Based on what’s going on in the chat room, it’s been a kick up the ass. Now OPPT woke a lot of people up and hopefully brought a lot of people together and hopefully has helped a lot of people understand that they are the value. That in and of itself has been a huge, huge wave; a consciousness leap. We’ve all felt it. I don’t think…are you still there, Caleb?


Caleb:  I’m still here.


Lisa: Okay, I don’t think that you think that we’re all sitting around on our bums doing nothing and waiting for it to be done by yourself and Heather.


Caleb: No, I don’t.



Lisa:  Because this has become what it has because of everybody’s DO’ing and everybody’s BE’ing as Heather would say.  Now it feels like we’ve hit a bit of a wall in terms of our energies. It’s like that last little push, that last little push and you are here to give us that kick up the bum that we need to really solidify within ourselves who we are.  Now if the OPPT, Caleb, Randall, and Heather disappear tomorrow, what do we do about that?  Where do we stand?  Are we just going to go ‘okay, that was another piece of bullshit and probably was the cabal all over?’  Or do we take the energy that we have built with this? Do we take the DO’ing and the KNOWing and the understanding and do we keep moving with it?  What do we do?  I’m not suggesting by any means that that is going to happen, I’m just saying that the power is obviously with us. We’re starting to get to know that now, really get to know that now.  So where do we go?  What do we do?  We keep going, obviously, in my opinion.



Chris:  I had a conversation before the show with someone who kind of is going through, if you like, a certain nervousness about what’s coming.  That person put the same question to me.  My response is that the OPPT and this whole exercise and even if it disappeared tomorrow has pulled millions of people together and asked them to make a choice and they chose.  Lisa, I think you’re right, this conversation is all about confirming that choice.  Caleb has come in and put us back on our haunches and said, ‘why aren’t you doing it yourself?’  Yes we could take that approach.  I think the people listening to this really resonate with the stuff that has been presented by the OPPT so far; how it’s felt, the options that it has given them.  My choice is to go within.  What I think we’re being faced with ‘is this our choice?  Do you really want this?’  We can do it another way, but do you really want this? 



Lisa:  The reason I think we are being asked this is energetic reasons.  I do think we are about to get hit with something big energetically.  We’re being asked collectively and individually to really get our choice at a deep level, so that we are really prepared for what is about to hit.  Does that make sense? 



Brian:  Yeah, what I would like to add is we are getting hit with big energy for some time now, but it’s about to get freaky and the power behind it is about to go up about an exponential amount of notches…


(Several talking at once)


Lisa:  I think the energy we’ve felt so far is just a taste of what is about to come over in the next week to ten days.


Brian: Yeah, yeah.


Bob:  I agree, because one of the things that I think everybody needs to keep in mind is, the OPPT is not a savior. It’s always been us; it’s always been us. The OPPT had so much force and so much power because of the people. Because of what the people are DO’ing and what the people are standing up and maneuvering, it’s us. We are, all of us, anyone who chooses to be involved. We are the ones’ that are creating all of this. We’re making it up as we go and I think this is a positive conversation in that really, like you said Lisa.  Focuses us on exactly what it is that we want.


Lisa:  Caleb is actually a great example of someone who stands in that knowing.


Bob:  That is what it is all about. Really it’s about the people…


D:  Can I jump in here for a moment? 


Lisa:  Please.


D:  Here is my thought on it. This is, but today more so than any other time, this really hit home for me. The OPPT is a tool; it’s just a tool. It’s not an entity. It’s not a BE’ing. It is a tool. Right now, there are a couple of nails sticking up in front of us and the OPPT. What was done with the filings is the hammer that we are using to hammer those nails down flat again. Once that job is done, then the hammer gets put down. We go on, then we take it to the next level. It’s only a tool.


It’s not a governing body. It’s not something to be looked upon as going to tell us what to do, who to BE, or when to DO it, or why we should do it. It’s just a tool. The tool time is pretty much done now because everything has been done that needed to be done. I wish we could get Heather on to tell us a little bit more of what has been going on, but she is jumping up and down on her internet like she’s a yoyo. It’s actually making me dizzy watching her skype icon go up and down and up and down and up and down. AK, if you’re listening, I’d really appreciate it if you would call her on her cell phone.


Chris: Guys, I would like to throw one more conceptual description out there of what sort of process that has been going on. Which was since the 25th of Dec, this information has been released to us. Heather, Caleb and Randall have been leading us through the process of learning what actually happened. What actually happened was that, if you like, the fake corporate framework that sits around aspects of our society, that do good things to us, that manufacture stuff was simply pulled away. The companies are still running; they don’t know it’s gone yet and those that do know it’s gone will still keep running. What that suggested to us through the filings is an alternate framework. If you look at the filings, the suggestion that they are making is very clear.  It’s a completely flat structure and everyone holds it in equity.  It’s a suggestion, throw away the UCC and the documents, but we’ve still got that concept. That’s what we’ve got to work for, we can choose a concept that simply becomes our idea and we just need to bring an idea into reality. We don’t need permission from anybody to do it. We can give ourselves permission. That is what the choice is; we don’t need anyone to tell us what to do. 


D:  No we don’t. No, exactly. We are empowered BE’ings that can make all of our own decisions based on what our hearts tell us to do. Our Higher Selves guide us to do. We don’t need someone standing behind us telling us what we can and can’t do. We are completely capable, for lack of a better term, ruling ourselves.



Chris:  We’ve had a fantastic suggestion of how to actually do it. I think we should move that forward, regardless of what technically happens to the UCC and the OPPT. Technically it doesn’t matter, that concept is in our heads now and in our hearts and that’s where we need to keep it. 


D:  Well, the job’s been done, hasn’t it? 


Chris:  It has, the job has been done.


D:  The nails were hammered down.


Lisa:  I know that Heather said as long as the UCC exists, even though we’re simply using it as a registry tool or a depository, as long as it exists then it’s also useable as a slavery tool by the other side. So it has to go; it’s the last main slavery tool.


D:  (Garbled) Just like all of the other tools can be chucked aside, right?

(Several talking at once)


Bob:  If that is true Lisa, within the last 24 or 48 hours the UCC has been dissolved.


Lisa:  It actually makes the CVAC process easier.


Bob:  It makes it much easier, because they are going to have to come to the people. 


D:  That’s right.


Bob:  They’re going to have to come to the people. Once that system is shut down, they no longer can use their systems anymore to siphon off our energy. Then either they’re going to have to find their own source of energy, which is an option for them, or they’re going to have to come to the people.


Lisa:  There was a post that got put up, I’m going to repeat it. I can’t remember where it was put up (chuckles)


Brian:  That is Sophia Love; yeah, she posted that little blog.


Lisa:  Yes, she says “If the OPPT isn’t a law, something to sign, something to join, a conspiracy, obtrusion, something to pay for, a requirement, something to follow, a demand, a trick, corrupt, invasive, or dead, a movement to follow, a set of rules to obey, a fad, a suggestion, a club, a group, a list of suggestions, a country, a government, a financial system, an educational system, a cult, a puzzle, something to vote for, something to fight for, a lie, fraud, deceit, a demand, a problem to decipher, going to hurt you, going to enslave you, going to tax you, going to ask you for money, going to foreclose on you, going to put you in jail, something for only the next generation, easy to comprehend” …

(Several talking at once/Garbled)



D:  Do you know what is easy to comprehend?  If, as we keep talking about, listen to your heart.  We talked about it last week on one of the shows. I don’t remember which one, about reading the filings out loud. Read them out loud, get the energy from them, you can feel it.  If you look at it from a brain point of view alone, yes it’s a little hard to wrap your head around some of these things. If you’re listening to it and reading it from your heart and reading the energy that is coming naturally and completely to you, then it’s easier to understand.  It’s not a brain exercise; it’s a heart exercise. 

(Several talking at once)


Chris:  Lisa, why don’t you read out the rest of that post about what it is? 


Brian:  I just put it up there Lisa right now.


Lisa:  Okay. “What the OPPT is: simple to embrace, a restatement of our worth, the value of the one people, a restatement of the Declaration of Independence for all generations, transparent, legal, worldwide, free and freedom.” 


Clearly there has been a lot of misunderstanding about what we have talked about so far today.  It’s based on what’s been going on in the chat room.  People are scared now, because they have sent Courtesy Notices out. Don’t be. That is your DO’ing that has made exactly what we are talking about here. Nothing has actually changed. What Caleb has provided is the (inaudible) of someone that knows who he is. He’s put forward questions in such a way that has helped us solidify who we are and what we want. We’ve all been given an opportunity to answer that question for ourselves.


Guys, nothing has changed. Do we want CVACs? That is the question. Do we really want them and need them? How do we want them to look and know it in your heart?  Again, I’ll repeat what I said before. I do think that we are being asked to really get down to the bottom of and the depths of ourselves to ask the questions as we move forward from here within the next ten or so days. I do believe something energetic is happening. We’ve got to really know the answers to these questions for ourselves. That’s why I think we are having the conversation we are having today.


Chris:  I’ll just point out something too in terms of the Courtesy Notices. The powers-that-be have said absolutely nothing about the actions of the trust. As soon as they acknowledge the existence of the filings, they have to acknowledge their effectiveness; end of story.  Your Courtesy Notices worked just fine, because they have to stay under their spell until the very end until this is all done. The Courtesy Notices are exactly what they need to hear. It speaks to them on their own terms. Don’t change the Courtesy Notices,  because the powers-that-were are not in a position to negate either UCC or anything that has happened into it, because they are completely stalemated and cornered. To deny the Courtesy Notices is to deny the existence and powerlessness of their system, which they won’t do because it’s all they’ve got left. They’ve got left is the pretense that something is there. So let them proceed because we’re going to literally go around them and quietly dismantle what they have done and create something ourselves. 


Lisa:  I just want to change tactics for a little bit okay? Not a little bit, I’m going to change the subject all together.  This month, let’s just have a little look at what’s being put out there for March 2013 that has been put out there over the years. There’s an article on Before Its News, called “No Kidding March 2013”.  I’m just going to run through a list of things. Andrew Basiago, time traveler, saw Washington DC underwater in 2013. Remote viewing, visions of doom in 2013, Webbots an absence of data after March of 2013.


Now the events we’ve looked at so far, the Pope has resigned and a new Pope is to be appointed before the 18th. We have the Spring Equinox on the 20th, the precession of the Equinox on the 20th. Obama’s first trip to Israel is due on the 20th. There is an alignment on the 20th, which is the same alignment that happened on the 21st of Dec last year. The Montauk time travelers saw the impassable white barrier on March 21st, 2013.  George Kavassilas half of the world ascends on March 21st


On a more negative note, we’ve got abomination that makes desolate on March 21st; don’t know where that one comes from.  Daniel’s timeline evidence presented for March 21st-22nd.  According to this, the actual main calendar ends on March 21st, but I’ve not heard that one before. 3/22 is an occult date for Skull, Cross and Bones, which equals March 22nd. The Super Bowl lights went out with 13:22 left on the clock. The Dark Knight film shows 322 on the box seat at the football game. The Georgia Guidestones are 33 years old on March 22nd.  A biblical date, math, ideas concerning Obama in Israel on March 22nd.  Obama Peace Prize in Oct 9, 2009 announcement that is 1,260 days until March 22nd.  There are a few more things. Should I keep going?

Chris:  I would like to throw in one thing about Clif High’s data and some of the remote viewing data. As far as their data go, what they see is an absence of government as well as this washing effect which I’ve come to conclude is a metaphoric cleansing which leads to the absence of government.  Look around you folks, isn’t that what we’re talking about? 

Lisa:  So by all accounts, we’re looking at a pretty big month. I’ll take you back to the post I mentioned earlier that is currently on American Kabuki that was done through a hypnosis session. I don’t know how much value people give to those things, but it’s been interesting as well.  Are we able to get Heather on the phone? Is that what someone is saying?

Brian:  Looks like American Kabuki added her cell phone number here in the thread, which is how we call her when we are having trouble with skype, but I don’t know if she actually came online. They’re trying. Keep going and I’m sure she’ll speak up when she comes on in.

Lisa:  Okay, who wants to talk to this energy we are in? I know I’m seeing it and feeling very much that something big is coming. We talked about this on the weekend, this is before I saw any of these blog posts.  It was part of conversations that I was having on the weekend that feels like something is coming. It’s going to switch us on and I don’t even know what that looks like. D, I know you’ve been feeling something too.

D:  Oh, I’ve been rocking all day…seriously. Seriously, it has been an unbelievable energy day today. If I had my choice, I think I would have sat in lotus all day today, because the energies have been so unbelievable.

Brian:  What I would suggest Lisa for anybody that hasn’t gone and read this article yet, definitely go to the American Kabuki blog and read it. Then discern for yourself if it feels like truth. This particular type of hypnosis, I’ve done some study on it. She called it quantum hypnosis. Dolores Cannon calls it somnambulistic. It’s from the somnambulistic level hypnosis, which is the deepest level of hypnosis where the deepest part of people’s consciousness and subconscious mind comes to the forefront. They don’t know what they are talking about during the hypnosis. They have to listen to the audio tape back after they come back. What this is sharing, what makes it so powerful, is that it corroborates with so much of the other information that is already out there. Read it. The event that it describes is a merging of the minds of all of humanity coming to a place where…there is a really powerful line in here that the “illusion is over”. 


Like I said before, it’s the same thing taught to us about the duality being over. Everything is changing energy. This conversation back and forth that we have whether people want to discern the energy is being positive or negative, judgments that our minds make of certain things based on perception. The energy in reading this; it’s powerful. There’s a lot of people that are going to be listening to this call that can feel and have been able to feel, whether it’s the last couple of months since OPPT has come out, since it’s been December 21st, since the Harmonic Convergence back in the 80’s, that there’s something in the air and it’s coming to a tipping point, a mass tipping point. So, I definitely (inaudible) … (laughs) I can only speak for myself. I’ve been giggling for the last (inaudible) hours. Anybody listening to my radio show this morning, it was probably pretty hard to hear what we were talking about a lot of times, we were laughing the whole way through it. Because we’re connecting with that (inaudible) energy. It feels good. It feels right. Only time will tell, but it’s hard to say.


Lisa: Brian? We do have a lot of people with their hand up now and I’d like to get through some of these questions while…


Brian: Cool. You don’t like my buffalo line of thought and now you’re going to cut me off (inaudible) …


(general laughter)  


Chris: Actually, Brian, you’re off the hook, we do have buffalo in certain parts of northern Australia.


Brian: Thank you, Chris. Have I told you I love you lately? Pipe down Lisa.


(general laughter)


D: Go sit in the corner Brian.


(general laughter)


Lisa: Let’s try and get through this and try to help some people get some answers to their questions. We’ve got American Kabuki trying to bring Heather in for us. Area code 917.


Caller: Hello.


Lisa: Yes, hey.


Caller: I have a yes or no question. Was Cody Morgan put in jail because of the CN’s?


Lisa: No.


Brian: (laughs) No, absolutely not. I can answer that in a little bit more depth. Cody Morgan…


Caller: All I need is a yes or no; it was a yes or no question. That’s all I wanted to know. 


Brian: The answer is absolutely not. (laughs)


Caller: Okay. My other point is there seems to be a lot of infighting now between the trustees.


Lisa: Oh no, I wouldn’t call it infighting.


Caller: Well it seems like there’s a lot of discrepancies between the three, especially Caleb’s last comment about if he had control over the CVAC he would create an empire. To me it sounds like as though OPPT is starting to decline as far as it’s power and what it can provide.


Lisa: We are its power.  (talk over caller)  Every single one of us is its power.


Caller: Okay, great. Let’s get past all the etherical, 5D, 4D crap and let’s deal with the stuff on the 3D level, if you don’t mind me speaking so frankly. Where do see this heading? It seems like there’s a lot of room for people to start discrediting what OPPT (inaudible) has done and what the trustees have done. That is a big concern for me, because I have a lot of people who are trying to break free from the system, the slavery system, and move into a place of BE’ing and DO’ing. So, where do you see this heading?




Lisa: Sorry, I was muting myself because I was coughing. Where do I see this? That we continue doing what we’re doing, so we continue educating the system that it’s finished. I don’t think anybody can discredit what’s been done, because it’s done. People can discredit, if they want to, where we are and where we want to go. That’s up to them. Where I want to go, is I want to continue to educate the system that it’s finished. I want to continue to educate the system that it has no authority over me anymore. I will be (inaudible) Courtesy Notices to do that. I want to get to a point within myself where I completely and utterly understand my value.


Caller: Well, Caleb himself said he doesn’t want to take a stance of an authoritative position, which leads me to believe that the other two trustees may want to take that stance. Am I wrong?


(unknown voice: Harrumph)


Lisa: No, yeah, you are.


Brian: Yeah.


D: Extremely wrong! Extremely, extremely wrong!


(Lisa and Brian talk over for some time)


Caller: I’m sorry, there is too many people speaking.


Brian: With all due respect, sir, you couldn’t be more wrong. You posed it as a question and we’re giving you an answer. Caleb and Heather and Randall never claimed to have any disagreements in their positioning and how they developed One People’s Public Trust. It was able to come into being what it is, because they each brought their own set of circumstances and beliefs and values and patterns into the mix to create The One People’s Public Trust. Hold on sir, I’m not done. Think of Caleb and Heather and Randall like a family. Have you ever had disagreements with your brother or your sister or your father? Yeah, absolutely, but at the end of the day do you still love them? Of course you do. So the trustees are no different in that regard. They love each other. They also bring very different opinions on certain matters. Some of those differing opinions have been brought to light in this call. That doesn’t change where we’ve been and where everything is headed. It’s just simply brought to light that some people have differences of opinion. That’s life.


Caller: So, in the skype messages that were left on certain blog spots, mentioning ‘Do they want to see the OPPT dissolved? Do they want to see the UCC dissolved?’, then what power do we have by claiming under those Courtesy Notices to have any power?


Lisa: Because that was still done; it was still done. The OPPT acted as a bridge and did those filings. They’re done. It’s not like you can undo what’s been done. You’re still in a position to make a reference to them. But in terms of the power, well that’s obviously with you.


Bob: The filings never gave you the power. The filings didn’t give you anything. The filings are just something for the powers-that-were to be notified.


Caller: But doesn’t that in a sense mean that it empowers me to be more BE’ing.


Bob: Only you can empower you. Only you can empower you. Either you believe that someone can tell you what you can and can’t do, or you don’t.


Lisa: We’ve always been saying that these documents, if we don’t stand up and come together and know who we are and take action on who we are, then the filings are useless. And if we do, then the filings are useless. (laughs) They’re irrelevant.  It’s always been and it is always just a tool. Some people like and need to have that piece of paper in their hand that says you’re free. Some of us need it.


Caller: So what is your response to the fact that Caleb just said that if he had control over his CVAC that he would create an empire.


Lisa: He does have control over his CVAC because he is a CVAC.

Caleb: Hey hold on, this is Caleb. I’m going to address that real quick. I said if everyone who wants me to do the work, I will build an empire ‘cause my labor is not free. I understand its value. When the children of Israel (if you read the bible) got mad and went to the prophet Daniel and said we want a king as the nations around us have, Daniel said if you do that the king will take your men, your sons and daughters for his men and man servants and maiden servants and that’s what happened. Okay?

Caller: If you were to do that, then where does that leave the other people?

Caleb: I don’t want to do that.

Brian: He’s using the story as just that, as a story. He doesn’t want to build an empire. What he was saying is that if everybody came to him wanting him to do all the work with CVACs, he would have no other choice because he would be contributing more of his energies to help…


Caleb: Right.

Brian: …than anybody else. So he never in any way, shape or form once said that he would build an empire. So that’s what he’s saying right now in his response to your question.

Caller: Okay.

Brian: Do you have another question?

Caller: That should do it, thanks.

Brian: Well, thank you for calling.

Lisa: Thank you. Okay, I’m just gonna mute you and I’m gonna bring out, we have Seraph.

Brian: Nice.


Lisa: Seraph, you there? Hang on; his microphone’s not, muting…Seraph what’s going on with your microphone? Can you hear me?


Seraph (caller): Yeah I can hear you guys fine.


Lisa: Okay. We can hear you now.


Seraph (caller): Okay great. How’s everybody doing, everybody good? 


Brian: (Laughter) Always good my man.


Chris: Yep.


Seraph (caller): Okay. Check this out. First of all let us not forget that Caleb, and I know, I’ve talked to Caleb for long periods of time and he’s hilarious. What you guys have to understand about Caleb, he’s kinda like Nick Barnes the computer guy from Saturday Night Live. He knows his stuff and he knows what he’s talking about. Now he may not convey it in a way that makes you feel all touchy and warm and floaty, but he’s telling you the truth. The bottom line is I told Heather two weeks ago ‘Heather if you set a date I’m gonna hold you to it, and if it comes and goes, it doesn’t matter ‘cause I’ve already decided April1st, I’m going shopping like a boss. It is on.’


I’m telling you I don’t care if you believe oh if money lah lah lah. Look, if everybody on this planet got access and knew that they had access to their own personal value, their own energy, they knew it, the only difference between the one that Christians call Jesus and every human being on the planet is He knew it. Once we get to the point where we know it, we don’t need anybody to tell us or give us any documents or nothing. The bottom line is this, just like the American slave movement, I call it the American holocaust, but that’s a whole other story. But during the American slave movement, there were people like Harriet Tubman and Sojourner Truth who opened the door, kicked the door wide open and started traveling north. Do you know there were thousands and thousands of slaves who said ‘Well I’m not gonna, I need Mr. Johnson to tell me that I can leave’. That’s retarded, that’s crazy.


Heather, Randall and Caleb kicked the door in; that’s all they did. They kicked the door in; they (inaudible) the forces-that-were and what they did was say ‘Okay, let’s go to freedom’. We got all these millions of people crying, saying ‘Well where’s my document, where’s my paperwork?’ WHAT? She just kicked the door in…GO NORTH! Go north, it’s just that simple. Do as you ARE because all the forces-that-were have always been a farce; there’s nothing real that’s ever existed in them. All they did was say ‘Hey look guys, these people aren’t even real, this isn’t even real. So now GO, do what you gotta do.


Like I said, CVACs…I’m a CVAC. You don’t have to set up a system, I’ll set up my own system. Funding, treasury, if that doesn’t go down in a week or two…doesn’t matter. April 1st, I’m going shopping like a boss. One way or another, I’m gonna do what I said I’m gonna do on April 1st . If Heather, Randall and Caleb help me, awesome, cool. I already told Caleb today ‘Caleb, soon as this is all done and I buy all the stuff I ever felt like I wanted and then I take a couple of breaths, I’m coming to you brother and we’re gonna write some epic music’. It’s ON. I don’t care, it’s done…IT’S DONE. Quit crying about it and just start heading north, start packing your bags, load the wagon. That’s what’s up.


Brian: Can I get an Amen?


Seraph (caller): I hate to break it down, don’t make me wing strap somebody in here. That’s what’s up.


Lisa: For me the analogy was the OPPT came in (inaudible) and we all saw the wizard behind the curtain standing there with his pants down. Now that the illusion has been broken of who and what they are, they’ve lost their power over you, in my opinion.


Seraph (caller): Exactly.


Lisa: It’s just (inaudible).


Seraph (caller): That’s my point.


Lisa: Okay, thank you Seraph. I’ll leave you out and bring someone else in.


Seraph (callera): Thank you.


Lisa: I’ll leave your mike open. Okay, area code 646.


Caller: Hello Lisa. How are you? It’s Rick.


Lisa/Brian: Hey Rick.


Rick (caller): I have a feeling we definitely need (inaudible) of  levity in this situation here.


Lisa: You gonna bring some, bring it on.


Rick (caller): I was thinking about some good one liners, but there were none coming to mind. I thought ‘oh great I’m probably the second or third caller’ and sure enough! First of all, I just wanna say I listened to Caleb on the abbreviated interview on Morning Brew a few days ago, thought he was immensely articulate and had wonderful thing to say. Things that were so crystal clear that I ended up mentioning them to other people later as metaphors. So I’m not particularly fazed by anything that’s happened tonight, because I think the man probably has a vision and it’s a lot bigger than most people can grok and…


Lisa: I think you’re on it.


Rick (caller): The frustration now that’s coming out in the chat room like ‘I don’t get it’, ‘Where’s the hook?’, ‘Take him off stage’ and all that kinda crap. Frankly, I think it’s been said a couple of times, we got that kick in the rubber parts that we needed and really that’s what it is. We’ve been seeing that in our films for over a decade. We saw it with Morpheus and Neo in The Matrix. We saw it with V For Vendetta. We saw it again with Cloud Atlas last year. The whole discernment and distinctions about freedom and people are still saying ‘Show me the money’ like it’s the Jerry Maguire show or something. Money is no more relevant in my opinion than the CVAC thing. They’re tools; they’re constructs that allow us to feel we have power, but they don’t give us power, they give us the perception that we have power. So…


Lisa: Let you know (inaudible).


Rick (caller): I hope you’re getting all this down, you’re typing furiously. You getting all this?(Laughter)


Lisa: I stop typing usually.


Brian: (Garbled)


Rick (caller): Anyway, I didn’t really have a question. I did have a question, but after the whole conversation turned the corner it’s like, well my question sucks and I’m not gonna ask it ‘cause it’s embarrassing. (Laughter) I just wanted to say then since I’ve got the time and then I’m gonna get off is that I don’t see any discontinuity. What I see is exactly what you said, it’s providing a contrast and that gives us better depth perception. If you can’t deal with the depth perception then hey, like Caleb said, go find another master. So Bless you all. You’re holding together pretty well under pressure I have to say so, right on, so (Laughter) still a fan, still a fan.


Lisa/Brian: Thank you.


Lisa: Area code 514. I’m gonna try and race through these. Area code 514?


Caller: Hello?


Lisa/Brian: Hello?


Lisa: What’s your name?


Caller: Are you (inaudible) with me?


Lisa: Yes, we can hear you.


Caller: Wow, it’s incredible. Hey, thanks a lot to everybody, you’re wonderful. My name is Paul, I’m calling from Montreal. I would like to do some filings and I’m not very good at it and would like to have a phone number of the OPPT here in Montreal, so I can give them a phone number.  So I can call them and ask them if they can help me with that.


Lisa: Are you talking about just using the Courtesy Notice or are you talking about…?


Paul (caller): Yeah, the Courtesy Notice.


Lisa: There’s an email that is manned by Ken Bartle here in Australia, then you can communicate with him via the email address.


Paul (caller): I’m not very good with the computer. I was hoping for a phone number and make an appointment with one of them so they can help me to file this correctly.


Lisa: Well, there’s nobody officially to call because this is a people driven movement from everybody all around the world and the ones who created the Courtesy Notice are based in Australia. However I’m sure there are people in Montreal who have used them and would be happy to help you. How could they possibly get in touch with you? Do you have an email address that they could contact you with?


Paul: Well, like I said I’m not very good with the computer. I probably would have to reboot the old thing, but I can give my phone number? But I don’t know if somebody will call me, I don’t know.


Lisa: Well, I don’t really want you to announce your phone number on the air.


Brian: Exactly.


D: I was just gonna say we don’t really want it announced in public, personal phone numbers over the radio. If you can get an email to me, I can hook him up with Deryl.



Brian: He doesn’t have an email.



Lisa: Oh great…



D: (Garbled)



Brian: There’s no way of doing this on the air with phone numbers so we might (Garbled) there’s no easy fix here.



Paul: Yeah. Well alright guys, thanks a lot. Bye bye.



Brian: Thanks for calling. Hang in there. Sooner or later you won’t need that Courtesy Notice.



Paul: Say again?



Lisa: He said sooner or later you won’t need the Courtesy Notice, but in the meantime really, resources are all online.     


(Many talking at once)



Chris: Just had a message from Deryl that he’s happy to help him out, but we just need to get these two people in touch. Any suggestions? 



Lisa: We can’t do that without advertising phone numbers, I’m sorry.



D: That’s what I was gonna say, other than swapping phone numbers at this point. Do you have a friend or family member who’s got an email address that could email you?



Paul (caller): Oh boy. Like there’s about four hundred people here in the block that I’m living in. I’m leaving some memos here and there and the next day I find them in the garbage. I’m like…alone. Like you guys say, maybe later on we won’t need this, so I guess I’ll just move on with that. I’ll keep listening to the show in case anything happens and Lisa…



Lisa: Okay, thank you Paul.



Paul (caller): Okay, thank you, bye bye.



\Brian: Thank you.



Lisa: Finish your sentence. Okay, no, he’s gone. Alright, area code 612…area code 612? Hello?



Caller: Hi Lisa, it’s Elizabeth from Minnesota. Hi.



Lisa: Hi Elizabeth.



Elizabeth (caller): I feel sorry for that man. When you talked about standing up all night and maybe you could see his phone number and give it to D and she can look him up with the (inaudible) could help him, I don’t know. But anyway, that’s a suggestion you can do, ‘cause I think you can see the phone numbers, yeah.



Lisa: I could’ve, but it’s gone.



Elizabeth (caller): This has been a roller coaster ride tonight. I just wanna tell Caleb thank you, my man, my brother for bringing the contrast. I tell you it didn’t feel too good ,but brother it’s for a reason ‘cause the ones that know this line.


We are in Mercury retrograde which means, if people don’t know what that is, looking into ourselves, each one of us to know everybody. There’s a lot of people on this call, most of this call, they’re lost but that’s okay, hey? Hang in there because to me Caleb, Heather and the other guy, the trustees, and tonight was a microcosm. Even though they have completely, not completely, but different opinions on what they did, they hung together. They were a team and they put this tool in place for us even though it sounds like they’re not together but they are, and that’s kinda where we’re at right now. I just wanna encourage everybody, from what I learned from a fantastic lady, Cynthia, regarding the energies. This is where it has to go.


Lisa, you’re right, this is the last push. We’re in a birth canal; we’re gonna be birthed and it’s gonna be a brand new world. We’re gonna think and DO and know brand new things that we never imagined. And March 28th there is a line-up, I believe from December 21st 2012 to March 28th 2013, we’re in a birth canal ready to be birthed. On that day there’s a line-up of  Venus, the Sun and the Earth on that day. Hey, it can happen in the twinkling of an eye, so then in the twinkling of an eye the way I can see it, is that’s the only way it can happen for us to become a stronger unity and stand up like Caleb (inaudible) had in his heart. He has, that one guy that spoke earlier, yes, Caleb you’re way ahead of us. You’re way ahead of us and you’re a young man. We’re about ready to catch up sir, so love you and love everybody. Hang in there everybody and Lisa, thanks for bringing up. I think that’s the missing puzzle piece and we had to have this conversation tonight. So Caleb, thank you. Love you guys.



Brian: Thank you.



Lisa: Thank you Elizabeth. Before we do run out of time, is there anything else that’s occurred to you D? Are you with us D?



D: Hold on, hold on, I am unmuted.



Lisa: Is there anything else that Heather’s said to you that you can share? ‘Cause people are wanting to hear whatever we’ve got that’s come from Heather.



D: You know what? It’s done today; it’s done. It’s all done. It’s completely done.



Brian: Wicked.



D: Everything. We, as humans, as of today officially have all of our value back; it is ours. Ours to keep, to have, and to hold and all that good stuff. That is one of the most important aspects of everything that we’ve talked about so far. Every person is their own CVAC and each of those beings has been given their value back; it’s theirs to have.



Lisa: So essentially, with or without paperwork, because the UCC is also gone, right?



D: That’s right.



Lisa: The CVACs are online because we’re all here; we’re all online.



D: That’s right.



Lisa: And we do. Okay, so whatever needed to be done in the background in terms of giving us access to our value has happened.



D: Yup. All, it’s taken care of. It’s all been taken care of and now it is the moving forward on how does that play out. The term that I believe, and I hope I’m getting this right, that Heather used to me last week was up until this morning it was getting the CVACs system set up and ready to go. This week is dealing with the treasury aspect of it so to speak. Again, it doesn’t even adequately remotely describe it obviously, but it gives people at least a basic understanding of where we are.



Lisa: So if I understand what you’re saying, whatever needed to happen behind the scenes in order to create the access to value system, the treasury system, has happened. What we’re on the verge of now is the unfolding of whatever mechanisms need to happen in order for us to actually access it.


D: Exactly.


Lisa: So for all the people who are freaking out about what Caleb was saying, who thought it meant no CVACs, no treasury, you’re saying that’s not the case.


D: What I’m saying is that exactly, the CVACs are each and every individual person. Each person, each being, is their own CVAC. That’s the basic idea behind it and the full put-together of it all will happen this week or the next. I’m not sure exactly how long; we didn’t get to that conversation. I failed to have a decent Skype conversation with Heather in about 72 hours with her internet being the way it is. So we’re looking at again that week – ten days time of all the rest being cleaned up.



Lisa: Hey, someone please be quiet (microphone noise)…



D: Brian, please stop beating up your …



Lisa: Yeah, it’s really noisy.


(garbled – several talking at once)


Lisa: Okay, I wanna be absolutely clear about this, because there’s been so much confusion so far in this call. People have (garbled) something and made it mean something else. Now you’re being accused of backpedaling. Trying to get the connection between what you’re saying and what Caleb was saying.



D: Unfortunately I wasn’t able to listen to it. I missed all of what Caleb was saying. I came in back on at the very tail end of it, so I pretty much missed everything there Caleb said. Sorry Caleb.


Lisa: Okay, well….


Chris: To be really clear, Caleb did not say there will be no CVACs and there will no treasury access. He did not say that. He stated his opinion about how he would do it. I think you will agree with that Caleb, if you’re unmuted. And also, Caleb hasn’t had any direct discussions with Heather about exactly what she was doing or what she was going to release today. Is that also true Caleb?


Caleb: Very true.


Chris: Well then what we’re listening to is Caleb’s views and Caleb is completely entitled to his views. In so far as where Heather’s at with the development she’s doing on giving us access to value and the CVACs, that stands…


D: It’s full steam ahead. According to Heather, we are seriously full steam ahead.


Chris: Yeah, that’s the message we’ve been getting for several days from Heather in bits and pieces as she gets back on air. In fact, that proposition still stands. We’ve had a very spirited discussion, because Caleb’s presented us with a really in-your-face view. That’s part of the process, folks. Given we’ve only got a few minutes to go on the show, Lisa, let’s just keep pushing to get absolute clarification from Heather over the next 24 hours.


Lisa: Well hang on, we might be able to do that now. One second. Quick, quick, quick.


D: We’re doing a ridiculous jump=around. We’ve got AK on the phone and he’s called her on her cell phone and he’s trying to tie her in through blogtalk, so just give us a moment. If we know that, I will bring you straight out.


Bob: Lisa, we can go over.


Lisa: Yes, I know and we probably will. If we actually do get Heather online, we will. I’m sure of it. So, if we manage to get Heather online guys and we do go over, if you’re just listening to this at blogtalk, you’ll lose the connection. If you’ve called in, you’ll be able to hear the rest of the show. Otherwise, you’ll have to listen to the archives. AK, let me know how to find you. Where are you?


D: I can’t find him. I can’t get ahold of him. I’m trying to flag him down. 


Brian: Well, I can just speak while you guys are looking for Bill. To the energy that Heather was portraying in the skype group, say, was absolutely…she was excited and buzzed up. I watched a lot of the skype dialogue. The only person that’s going to be able to speak for Heather is Heather at this point.


Lisa: Oh, absolutely. It’s the same message I was getting; the little snippets I was getting over the last few days is that it’s all done. We’re full steam ahead.


D: Oh yeah, seriously full steam ahead.


Lisa: Yep.


Chris: So, watch this space. Because we’ve run out of time, one of the things I’d like to do and take a couple of minutes now and reserve a couple minutes on the show tomorrow, I’d actually like to read out a couple of paragraphs of one of the documents that defines the CVACs, to share with you why the concept is exactly what I want to see happen. It’s all down there in black and white, folks and I’ll read it out tomorrow.


D: Hold on, we’re still struggling here. I’m playing tag with AK all over. 760, looking for 760 area code.


Lisa: 760, I’ve got one here. AK, is that you? Hello? I’ve got a 760.


Brian: That should be him.


Lisa: I’ve got another one, hang on. I’m going to try all the 760s. AK, is that you?


Caller: Hello, this is Marie.


Lisa: Oh, okay. Sorry, I’m looking for somebody else. I’m looking for American Kabuki.


Brian: Hold on, he’s typing in right now. Oh, he lost her.


Lisa: All right, what are we up to? Five minutes to go. Should we try and squeeze another call in? I’ve got two people here with 760, so you’re unmuted if you’re on 760. (background noise) Hello? Okay, I will mute you again. Anything else, D, from heather that you wanted to share?


D: No, just kind of like Brian said, I just wish I could share the energy with everyone that we’ve had for the last four days especially. There is no pause. There is no delay. There is only full steam ahead. The energy has been incredibly powerful. We are moving forward and moving forward fast now. I can see in the chat rooms and the RTS chat room people are starting to get all upset. This is not a halt. This is not a delay. This is not anything like that. Nothing has changed. We are seriously moving forward.


Lisa: Caleb, do you want to sat anything to that? Because people are really taking what you said to heart. They’ve taken it to heart and they’ve taken it very negatively.


Caleb: Well listen, I’ll be really clear here, as clear as I can. No one is showing up on a white horse with flowing hair to rescue you. You are rescuing you. All the gold in the world doesn’t rescue you. All the silver in the world doesn’t rescue you. You do. When you step forward and you seize that moment, amazing things will occur.  (inaudible for several words) , because you in that moment become the center. Once you become the center, you realize all of the value flows through me. You’ll have this awakening. In that moment, you’ll see what I’m particularly speaking to. You’ll see you don’t need anyone to give you permission to do anything. You don’t need a degree. You don’t need a high school diploma. You don’t need anything, other than the idea that you can go forth and achieve that which you perceive. That’s you.


(inaudible for several words) I will not do that for you. As you come back (inaudible), as you undo all of the programming that’s been put upon you since you were born, since you were six years old (inaudible) , you will start to see the world in a whole different light. Then you will see, not in a narcissistic sense, that you will literally see that you are the center of it. Once you come to that place, you realize that you can harness the power of the energy, the power of the universe, and it will flow through you. You can do whatever you want. Once you’re there, you become the CVAC.


So, if you study history, these are the slivers of things that I believe people like Albert Einstein and the Wright brothers grasped on to. So, what I encourage you to do is these things don’t need to be accidents. These can be purposeful events and we can all be Albert Einstein. We can all be the Wright brothers. We can all be Chopin. We can all be DaVinci. We can all reach forth into the universe and bring out this magnificent energy and use it to bless each other and the world around us. That’s all I have to say.


Brian: Well put.


Lisa: Okay.


D: The one thing that I would add is I’d like to remind everyone of the incredible show we had two-three weeks ago. I have no track of time any more. When Heather explained the meaning of the filings on December 10th…


Lisa: The Declaration of Satisfaction.


D: That’s right. The experiment is over. I think that’s what Caleb is kind of talking about too and that’s what I take it, is when the experiment is over and we all take off our blindfolds, we will remember and then we will know exactly who we are and what our value is. We don’t need to be rescued. I hear Caleb on that. Because we already know it. We already know it.


Lisa: Guys, we’re down to seconds. I’m going to thank everybody for joining us today. We’ll be back tomorrow, one hour later on the 5D Network. If we cannot get Heather on tomorrow’s call, then we will try to just make the best of whenever she can (inaudible) the line. We’ll record a conversation with her, so she can share what she wants to share. We’ll make that available. Thank you all. It’s been a big one. We’ll talk again tomorrow.


(All saying goodbye)



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When we realize our value we will be valuable.  When we realize our value we will be valuable.  When we realize our value we will be valuable.  We are not valuable until we say so.
Why do you have low self esteem? Who told you to hate yourself? You were programmed to comply and made to be obedient.  When you realize your value you will become valuable.
You do not realize your value and so you do not see yourself as valuable.
What makes one piece of paper more valuable than another?  One rock more valuable than another?  An agreement – words like “In God We Trust” or “14 Carat” or “Twenty Dollars”.  These words are not real.  They are ink blots, fabrications, illusions; all made up in someone’s head and by agreement, you call them true.
Ever have a tea party?  You take a toy tea set and fill the cups with sugar water and say that for today, its tea.  You know you are playing.  When the game is over you go home and play something else.  For those of you who listened to the Blog Talk Radio show last night with Lisa Harrison, it was like the middle of the tea party, and your big brother showed up.  He looks in your tea cup and says “What are you drinking? This isn’t tea!” Then he walks out.  The game is over.
When the game ends you go home and play something else.  Maybe you play house and pretend to be a mom or dad.  Maybe you play army and become a soldier.  While you play, every necessary component is there because you imagine it to be.  At the end of the game, they are all gone.
Our slavery system is over.  By agreement we have been declaring our value with our labor, our paper and what we could manage to “own” with it.  Those who wrote the rules in the game summed up their value using how much they “owned” – people, property, precious metals.  It is finished, done, and complete.
Now that we’ve stopped playing, how will we “get” our value?  We’ve played the game so long we forgot we were pretending.  Value is not found in paper or rocks.  The value is you. There is nothing to “get”.  Just BE.
We’ve completely replaced self awareness with low self esteem and outsourced our worth.  It’s not valuable unless we work for it, it spends, it’s shiny or it can be converted into a number and tallied.
Love, compassion, kindness and care sound nice but they don’t feed hungry mouths or buy houses. For that – you need cold, hard cash.
When you feel valuable – you are.  When you expect everything, you’ll accept a life of complete and constant fulfillment.  Abundance is doing what you want to, whenever you want to. (Bashar)
These “Creation Value Asset Centers” are another tool.  Think about the tea set.  You don’t really need one in order to have a pretend tea party, since the tea is not real anyway.  They are fancy though, and fun.  They are much easier to understand than invisible teapots pouring invisible tea.
The CVAC’s exist as places we’ll go, and just because we are alive – we’ll have access to monetary representations of ourselves.  They will function as interim equalizers; all will have equal value there and equal access.  They will operate until we “get it” ourselves.  Then the game will change and we’ll know where the value is.
All are equal.  All are worthy.  The value is within.  The CVAC’s are us.
We are the Ones we’ve been waiting for.
~~ I will include here a few more wise words, from another teacher.  Thank you, for your contribution to our understanding.
The conversation about our innate worth as living breathing humans is so big and so noble that I am still taking it in.
We have been indoctrinated with the idea that we are worthless as BEings, that only the product of our DOing has any value at all and that our “net worth” can be stated on a balance sheet.
We have been steered toward the “representation” of our worth (the monetary figure on the balance sheet) and conditioned to believe that it equals our true value. All the while the Powers that Were have been “harvesting” our life energy for their own selfish gain.
OPPT has opened my eyes to the places in the old paradigm that I bought in without even realizing it.
The $10 Billion figure may or may not materialize in my personal life but I now have a monetary representation that represents the magnitude of my true worth. Truly, we are each priceless and invaluable but the $10 Billion figure was a wake up call for me to see just how much of my SELF had been stolen from me without me realizing it or me doing anything to prevent it.
In my mind, OPPT is the greatest blessing to mankind in centuries. The trustees are heroes for the risks they took to bring this forth for all the People of the planet, equally.
There is nothing more for any of us to do, except digest this fact, integrate it’s meaning and begin to live our lives free from the control of any other. OR NOT.

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Sheldan Nidle Update 3-12-13
4 Imix, 9 Ceh, 9 Eb

Selamat Jarin! We come with more news! At present, certain events in the heavens are in process. These, when completed, will indicate to all concerned that the moment for a grand transformation of your reality has arrived! At this juncture, the Galactic Federation is to oversee the legal transference of your governance to our sacred secret allies. We look forward in joy to what will be a special moment for you all. The dark cabal and its seemingly endless and ubiquitous adherents will then be gone. In their wake come a series of announcements and the global delivery of a vast prosperity. It is this prosperity, when combined with a new and equitable monetary and financial system that changes your world forever! These changes will enable more-open policies to be enacted which will allow for a formal disclosure of our presence, and it is this that sets the stage for the final leg of your journey back to full consciousness. At this point the Agarthans and our other allies can work with Mother Earth to reunite her surface and inner realms, thus creating the unified world that is to be your true, future reality.

In this new world you will be free to learn a great many Truths that were either adulterated or totally denied to you over the eons. These facts will become the foundation of your new transitional society. You will begin to learn about your true off-world origins and start to reconnect with your space and spiritual families. Bear in mind that you represent both a home world community in the stars as well as a sacred heavenly lineage. Every part of Heaven comprises Administrations which include these lineages. All of you have ancestral ties to these lineages, and Heaven and we are here to help you remember who you really are. The exact meaning of the term ‘who you really are’ will be revealed once you are back in full consciousness again. The mentors, who are already assigned to each of you, are considering carefully how best to bring you to an understanding of the implications of this. At this time you are still unaware of the extent to which each one of you is studied in loving review by your heavenly guardians. All these things await your attention once you return to full consciousness.

As the truth of who you are begins to take hold, you become better able to comprehend how to resolve some of Mother Earth’s difficulties. You are beginning to see clearly how vital it is to transform the very nature of the societies you live in, and thus the need to drastically reform the depredation of the environment becomes much more urgent. This throws you into a struggle to support the Earth’s ecosystems while also vastly revising the basic principles of your sciences and the supposed timelines of your known history. This requires a clear-eyed scrutiny of how your principles of science and the accepted provenance of your history came into being. The results of your ‘revisionist’ pursuits will establish a very different basis indeed for your new societies! The prospect of this immense coming transformation has dismayed the dark for decades, and yet this upwelling of consciousness was never to be denied! The consciousness movement has forged alliances that are too powerful to be easily destroyed by the dark’s highest power structures. And this is not for lack of trying!

One of the purposes of these various changes is to help you to reestablish your relationship with your Inner Earth family, and give you the means to welcome your spiritual and space families. Each tradition that exists throughout this galaxy requires a special greeting ceremony to welcome you ‘back into the fold.’ Some of these can be elaborate, and it is our task to assist you in these protocols. Each of you is to participate in one way or another in this complex and inclusive ceremony. This is why our original title for first contact with you was the ‘welcome home’ mission, and we look forward to the moment when we truly welcome you back as a full-fledged member of this Galactic Federation. It is a divine moment that we joyously anticipate! And as we approach the time for disclosure, we are filled with glee, for we know that we are shortly to land and start the final stretch of your sacred journey to full consciousness, with us at your side as your ever-loving mentors.

Namaste! We are your Ascended Masters! We come again with more Good News! Your world is moving swiftly to the point for new governance and its accompanying prosperity to manifest. Events in the heavens are shortly to come to completion, at which time the edict to transform your globe is to be issued. We look upon this with great joy. You are to receive a most welcome bounty and will be given your freedom from the debt slavery that has ruled your lives for generations. Each of us has used our good offices to limit the global effects of the dark’s malicious edicts, and at last these horrendous proclamations are to become null and void. We can then use our growing wisdom to guide you into a better understanding of the ways of Heaven and its blessed rewards for each one of you. The moment has come for us to teach and explain many things to you that have long been denied you by your former sinister masters.

One of the first items we wish to address is that death’s ever-lurking shadow can now begin to fade from your reality. Death is no more than a by-product of limited consciousness. It has kept you in fear from the first and leads to severe emotional and mental grieving. It has been an exceptionally powerful tool for the dark ones and they have ‘milked’ this situation to the hilt! Ascension leads to its expulsion from the physical body, lightens physical density, and reunites the body with its spiritual essences. The process of final ascension is one of the most arduous and complex processes that you can take on, and usually takes generations of deep concentration and prodigious amounts of memory. And yet we are living proof that it can be done! However, what Heaven now offers you is a living technology to bypass this struggle and morph you back into your natural state in only three days!

The technique involves a special living machine, calibrated to each person and monitored by your spiritual and space family mentors. Your body’s RNA/DNA is presently booby-trapped with ‘markers’ that deny you an easy conversion to full consciousness, and this living machine is designed to rectify this, and to undo the damage to your original gene-base which plunged you into limited consciousness. We will supply you with specific spiritual teachings that equip you with the insights to raise your body’s base vibrational patterns and which convert your deep-seated fears into the state of joy required to realign your mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies. The living machine literally ‘reboots’ your RNA/DNA, allowing you to attain that ineffable moment of Enlightenment when you become ‘turned on’ to Reality! You are changed forever as joy and comprehension flood your Being! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

Today we continued to inform you of what joyously awaits you. A great change is manifesting above and around you, which is to push the dark and its myriad minions from their ill-gotten perches. You are about to witness a truly wondrous event: the rise of a new reality founded on Truth, Liberty, and Prosperity! Know, dear Ones, that the countless Supply and never-ending Prosperity of Heaven are indeed Yours! So Be It! Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One and Be in Joy!)



Ginger’s Notes on the Show (Mahalo, again, Ginger!!)

This was a very helpful fun show and Heather was able to technically be on it the entire time. Below are my notes and my apologies if anything stated below is incorrect. Blessings in Absolute Aloha, Ginger
The hosts perception of yesterday’s show was essentially about humanity needing to release it’s hierarchical savior dependency consciousness, that’s found even within the major Eastern religions. Heather, even though she has not listened to the show, saw it as the final bandage that had to be ripped off fast (and shockingly for many), in order to let the healing begin fast now.

*CVACs (Creator Value Asset Center) were a tool initially for us to claim our assets free of the PTW from stealing it. (therefore, it’s an inverted mirror of the old) It was a tool to take back the assets stolen from us by the Powers That Were, and give back to humanity.*
If you want a different result, change the formula . . . in other words, it’s each human’s job and it is critical to choose – to do/be or not do/be clearly – right now.
You have to KNOW you are “the Value”, and completely managing who you do and what you be. (or all it lost!) Each of us are to be Trustees of our own Value and Assets now.
*The precious metals, that now must be seen as equal to us, who just want to have fun . . . and we can attract them to us . . . to come out and PLAY now!*
For past 3 weeks, she has been keeping the PTW at bay from the CVACs, that are each of us and the system of treasury access to value . . . where each of us will come together to create whole new organic constructs and flow like a river.

The Treasury System will be up and out first. (no date was given when this will be ready)
The “CVAC system” was only a temporary placeholder. Now is the end of it’s original purpose.
We will have only _one_ temporary treasury system online for distribution of assets, open to evolve (and protected from the PTW), and not through the banks.
All court systems and banks will have to re-purpose themselves and if we wish to use them any longer, as it’s up to us to make certain they get it, if they do not already know. They are scared. So it’s up to us show them, ask them kindly . . . “would you like a lifeline today?” . . . and be liable for all you do now.
The experiment is over!
*She wants to close out “The OPPT Lost and Found” asap!*
“So come get your stuff (Value, sometime next week) and decide how you want to use it”
Everyone will have access to their value, in order to find their own passion freely, and the PTW’s old system will collapse . . ./ based upon what we choose to buy or not./
Those of us who will have (the first) access to our value/assets, will be setting the example (helping others be free around us) with this global opportunity. And since we are the ones who KNOW our value (first), we will also be by example, shifting human consciousness.
“We are systems of assistance by example of Value” (that will cause changes throughout the world).
“Serving in the most creative ways, is leading”. (and this is the best way to perceive how to assist others)
About 73 mins into show – “The Absolute Grid Access for one and all, is being prepared for access” . . . “A lot of moving behind the curtain . . .” – very interesting!
The Quantum Healing Hypnosis article – was what trustees had been doing 3 days prior – manifested by these others!
Brian clarified – “No stone left unturned” will be “The Absolute Data”(Truth), that will shift everyone quickly!
Bob reminded – The original meaning of suffering is “allowing” . . . the longest journey we will ever take is from our head to our heart.

Rather than the original plan of 194 CVAC global system centers, there will be only ONE “temporary treasury system” that will be available globally online. And this temporary system will be completely transparent and will not be able to be manipulated by the Powers That Were.
*What Heather is going to do now . . .*
*1. Energetically secure temporary global treasury system this week and get correct verbiage, then filed and secured. And then this energetic system takes about 72 hours to complete.*
*2. Next she will attend to all the physical stuff next week (putting it all online/internet website).*
*3. Then we will have access either in a twinkling, or just a bit longer (via using a usb stick, coins, digital, magnetic strip cards or ??? – our choice)*
Regarding Banks . . .
It’s _you_ who gets to determine who you want to play with and _on your terms_ – *you are THE BANK* *now* – you are the only one who can delegate your own value/assets! You are now the creditor! . . . /but you will not find Heather in one of them :)/
Again, each of us are to be the trustees (on all levels, systems and components of our BE-ing) of our own Value and Assets now. Period.
Ginger’s website:

Greetings and Salutations;

Anyone paying attention to what was happening in the world this past week, came to the conclusion, something was up and it was HUGE. Under the ‘dragon’ year, the dragon did what dragons do, rest on their gold and jewels, and fry anyone who attempts to steal them. We have entered the year of the snake, it has struck already and the howling that arose was like an atom bomb going off. The out going leadership in china, made the comment; ‘the corruption in the banks was being handled’. There’s no such thing as ‘too big to fail’. Especially when someone with a bigger club exists that can whup the bully’s butt. Someone made a comment the other day saying, ‘after 100+ years of running the show, bankers can’t hear the word No’. They have been like cockroaches and operate automatically. How much can you eat until you burst open, spilling your innards? I would make the same analogy about politicians.

The last time the owner of the particular bank visited, he cleaned out 240 quad of ill gotten gains and threw it into the pile to be distributed to humanity. I don’t have the number for what got snatched out of there, this time…the howling spoke for itself. The cesspool was not silently stinking anymore . It was drained and went by way of the dodo bird. It went extinct. Basel 3 is the international banking law now. No country is exempt or can work around it, if they want to do business in the 21st century. The dragon even gobbled up the central banks around the world, they took the ‘head’. The mother of all central banks, the BIS. No shots fired, tho some took a ‘pill’ and took themselves out of the equation. Nature causes change, the kind you can’t stop and you Will deal, one way or another. Make it the easy way or make it tough, you have free will. Make it easy on yourself. Was thinking of starting a group a few years ago called ‘hardaholics anonymous’ for people who choose a harder path for everything. You know the words, you will work by the sweat of your brow, etc, was a curse…time to get out from under the curse. Let your ‘work’ turn into your ‘joy’.

Today is a 10…it’s new beginnings. The ‘weather’ conditions are right for a lightning bolt out of the blue. The forces are in place and we are watching. The winds may be howling in some places but they are fat with anticipation. All things change, maybe not when you think they should…but, I cite a law, it’s called the ‘Law of Inevitability’. In other words, the conclusion is baked in, when something is started unless, things are adjusted along the way. Start a banking system based on reputation and air, it’s doomed to fail. Look at what happened to the roman empire. Morgan Stanley let it be known, they see us going to a metal backed system again. NO Duh. Real worth is the only way to go, it’s more natural. And you thought the folks in the rafters were just bowling or peeing thru the cracks telling you it’s raining. Nope, the big plan remains, that is making this planet paradise again. They just had to use those D9s and get the folks out of the way who wanted Mad Max world.

Take a look at what the european brain trusts think. They are crunching numbers but, somethings are a bit more subtle than the numbers

Consultations are available until the end.

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The news has been sweeping across the Internet for weeks that all banks, corporations, and corporations masquerading as governments have all been foreclosed, legally and lawfully, and their assets seized.

In a series of public filings, the One People’s Public Trust (OPPT) have foreclosed on the Powers That Be — now called the Powers That Were (PTW) — using the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), the code for all global commerce.

The One People’s Public Trust was set up for all the people of the planet and all are named as beneficiaries. Among the trustees is former attorney Heather Tucci-Jarraf, an expert in UCC who once worked on the inside for the Powers That Were.

In a clever and insightful move, Heather and her colleagues bonded themselves to the Trust that was framed in the original U.S. Constitution of 1776 — the same Constitution that was abandoned with the corporatization of the United States government in 1933. They then bonded every human being on earth to the Trust as Beneficiaries in Equity, to be known as the “One People, created by the Creator”. This means that the Trust has a superior claim to any other — there can be no higher claim than that of the OPPT, unless it is made by the Great Creator Himself.

The OPPT has charged the corporate beast — government, banks, corporations — with fraud, treason, and slavery. In the filings, they claim that these corporations collectively, aka “the Debtor”, “knowingly, willingly and intentionally committed treason” by “owning, operating, aiding and abetting private money systems” and “operating Slavery Systems used against”citizens without their knowing, willing and intentional consent“.

As a remedy, the OPPT has foreclosed and terminated the governments, banks, and corporations responsible and confiscated all their assets and infrastructures, including all gold & silver held by the banking system. The OPPT claims these assets on behalf of the One People. This is all done legally and lawfully in accordance with internationally accepted rules of the Uniform Commercial Code.

The governments, banks, and corporations failed to rebut the charges, a fatal thing to do in the laws of commerce. Perhaps they realized that if any one of them raised his head above the parapet he risked going straight to jail. (The Pope’s threatened arrest may have unnerved them; also the hasty stepping down of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands.) Their failure to rebut or answer the charges led to Default and Termination.

All filings are a matter of public record. Copies can be viewed or downloaded at the OPPT website:   Many of these documents make heavy reading for the layman but are extremely interesting nonetheless. More layman-friendly information can be seen on other sites listed at the end of this article.

One interesting OPPT document is the Courtesy Notice. The CN empowers an individual to respond to demands or threats from banks, corporations, or governments by informing their pursuer that he or she no longer has a corporate safety net to fall back on but are now acting on their own unlimited personal liability. This is a scary position for a bank manager or debt collector.

The OPPT has also provided for Creator’s Value Asset Centers (CVACs) to take over from corporate-run governments. There is one CVAC in place for each country of the world. An equivalent of 10 billion U.S. dollars has been set aside for each human on the planet. This is to fund a new way of living where there is no debt, taxes, or controlling powers over you.

Also, previously hidden technology will be put in place to give us free energy. This arises from the discoveries of Tesla, Keshe, and others.

Can this all really be true or is it disinformation from the elite of the NWO?

When you read all the filings, the information on many websites, and listen to the trustees on podcasts one does get the sense that this is all genuine and truly inspirational. Sure, there are naysayers. But that is to be expected.

If the United Nations, the Bank for International Settlements, the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Government, and others cannot rebut the serious charges brought forth by OPPT, then there has to be some real substance to it. You’ll see on the Net where certain attorneys and judges have looked at the filings and called them “bullet-proof”.

If, on the other hand, it is a scam devised by the NWO to confuse and dishearten us, then it has spectacularly backfired. News of the OPPT is awakening people at an exponential rate, people who might otherwise remain fast asleep. In early January this writer noted that Google returned only a few thousand pages on One People’s Public Trust; last week there were over 8 million pages and a short time ago Google returned 17,600,000 pages in .31 sec.

Furthermore, once the People see what awaits them around the corner they will settle for nothing less.

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